The Million Dollar Answer

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Ep. 187 with Phil Barth

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Expert in Stress Management, Goal Achievement. I recovered from a heart attack by a daily social media practice.

As a contestant on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, speaker, and author, Phil Barth is a man who specializes in goal achievement. His journey began when he found success by trying something different and surrounding him self with the right people. He now helps other fry chickens and overcome their barriers to success.

Show Notes

As a past contestant from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Phil Barth shares his journey through getting on the game show, chasing down his goal, and now helping others achieve their dream.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • The journey through Who Wants to Be a Millionaire
  • Become obsessed with your goal
  • Why right people to support you matters
  • The value in celebrating wins
  • How to see yourself to success
  • Find the next thing, even if it’s something small

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Transcript

INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan
Okay loves. So, I can’t get really nostalgic about certain things. And I grew up watching Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune with my family. And then obviously, Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, which is going to bring us into our guest this week. And it’s not because I want to talk about Who Wants to Be a Millionaire on the show. But I actually want to talk about someone’s journey to achieving their big ass goals. And I think that sometimes we can get a little, a little like in the weeds with things or we can also maybe not actually push ourselves to actually go for the things we think. We’ve just started to listen to other people or ourselves and think it’s never gonna happen to us. And so our guests, Phil Barth, he actually had a goal. He got curious about something, decided to do it. And then he worked his ass off for several years to make it happen. And I just wanted to share his journey, what he learned along the way, what he did after and what he’s doing now. And I think it’s so fun to hear stories like this because hopefully you can picture yourself in in the same situation with whatever it is you’re going after. And so, now let’s listen to Phil Barth story.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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EPISODE

Lesley Logan
All right, Be It babes. Oh, I’m really excited about this. Because our guest today he is, will he’ll tell you his story. But when I saw what he has accomplished his life, I was like, “Oh, I’ve watched that show.” I like … and so I was like taking it out of memory lane. And I I just like I have to talk to him. Because first of all, not only has he accomplished a lot, but he has learned so much along the journey. And I wanted to share that with you all because I think sometimes we get so obsessed with the goal, we forget that the journey has a lot to teach us. So Phil Barth, thank you so much for getting on the Be It pod. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you do?

Phil Barth
Sure. As you mentioned, my name is Phil Barth. I am a speaker author. That’s that’s my side gig gig. I still work in the computer world, in the IT world as a as a geek, basically. It’s this the show you’re talking about was Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. I’m sure we’ll get into that. But you probably don’t remember the episode but but that’s okay. Yeah.

Lesley Logan
That would be hard. There was a lot and …

Phil Barth
Oh, I know, right?

Lesley Logan
It’s still on. I think it’s still on.

Phil Barth
It is still on. And what I’ve seen now they don’t do it for millionaire but some game shows. I don’t know why you do this, except for the game show nerds like myself. They’re putting episodes out on I believe it’s Amazon Prime video. So you can see old episodes of the 70s game show Match Game and and and there’s a couple more. So who knows someday I might be out on Amazon Prime.

Lesley Logan
That’s amazing. You have to put that on your on your your, you know your resume.

Phil Barth
I totally will. That’s all there here’s, here’s the link. Go check it out.

Lesley Logan
I love that so much. I would tell people like when I was getting started and doing commercials and everything like, oh, I’m gonna dro… I was in a Dropbox ad, which is true. It was not ever on TV. It was only an add on on the internet, though. So but who knows? It’s they have it forever. So it could be used in different ways.

Phil Barth
Still count. It actually count.

Lesley Logan
So okay, so first of all, like what got you into even being wanting to do the show? Like, I feel like we have to go back a second.

Phil Barth
Yeah. Yeah. Good idea. So it was the show came out August of 99. And I had read articles and papers, “Oh, that’s interesting.” And so August of 99, I remember I’m at the Marriott in Stanford. And I walk into my room I’m like, “Oh, it’s almost time for that show I read about.” So I turned it on. And I’m watching it, I’m thinking. “You know, I can try to do this.” Because it’s multiple choice, right? You always have a guess. Jeopardy, I sit there watch the games … How they know that.

Lesley Logan
I know. I can only watch teen Jeopardy and even then I get a half …

Phil Barth
I only watch the first half before the questions get too difficult and like, I’m out here. But but I was like I can do that. And that was the thought right? And then at the end, they said, “Hey, if you want to be a contestant on millionaire, dialed this 800 number. Well, that’s easy enough. So I dialed, in every night they had a, an audition, basically, three questions, you had to put things in order from oldest to newest, newest to oldest, east to west, whatever. And if you got them, right, you went into a drawing for one of 10 spots on the show. Now, every night 200,000 people were calling in. So the odds are one and 20,000. (Lesley: Yeah.) But that that didn’t stop me, right. All of a sudden, I had this, I had this vision that I’m gonna be on that show. And I know part of it was because my grandmother loved the show from the start. And when she passed away, like, oh, you know, this would be a great way to remember my grandmother, great. But if it had been who wants to be 100 air, I don’t think I would have … had that drive. Right. (Lesley: Right.) There was that promise of riches. And the other thing that happened was, of course, I watched the show every single day, because that’s part of I wanted to see myself in that in that hot seat. So how …

Lesley Logan
That’s such, that’s such an interesting thing, because I would think people would watch it just to like, get used to the question, but you are also picturing yourself being in the chair. Yes.

Phil Barth
Exactly. So one night, I’m watching it, and somebody wants $250,000 and quit at the half million dollar question. I knew every single question, including the half million dollar question on that particular set. And I’m like, holy cow, now I can really see myself you know, doing the backstroke and all these dollar bills and so on. Right. So …

Lesley Logan
I love that you visualize, you’re gonna swim in the money.

Phil Barth
Throwing the dollar bills. Right. So so I, it became an obsession and I when I speak on this subject, you know, I say there’s a fine line between being obsessed with something. I forgot the other half of it, (Lesley: You mean, passionate.) that’s it. Thank you. Fine line between passionate and obsession, right. And obsession is got a bad rap, you know, your, your obsession, you’re going to, you’re going to be put it they’re gonna have to put a restraining order on you, blah, blah, blah. But if you’re really obsessed with something, and you cross over that line, there are payoffs when you make it your goal. People call it a bolhag, big ol hairy. Look, I call them big ol hairy ass goals. Other people … (Lesley: Yes.) nicer name for a, but that’s what it is. Right? It is your bolhag, you want it so bad. And so I watch the show every day, every time there was a phone audition to call in. I, I was in there, right. And then eventually, I never passed on the phone, I never passed the audition, never made it to the finals to get on the show. So the next thing that happened was they had in city audition. So I auditioned in Chicago, and failed. And then I drove to Indianapolis for an audition and failed. And I always tell the story of on the way home, I stopped at Taco Bell. I don’t recommend this for anyone, and had a Taco Bell Grande burrito and a Mountain Dew to fuel me on the way home. And I got home at two in the morning and threw up the Taco Bell. And (Lesley: Yeah.) so in my mind, it’s like, well, I have suffered for the cause they’re going to give me the, I’m gonna get the little card in the mail that says, “You made it.” (Lesley: Yeah.) That’s not how it worked.

Lesley Logan
We don’t need to, we don’t have to suffer for the cause to get the car. We don’t have to. (Phil: No, no.) Quickly to interrupt. I just want to say like, (Phil: Sure) I think I think correct, there is a there is a downside to obsession that can be a little bit but like if you’re obsessed with a goal, and that isn’t that is something that you that isn’t going to hurt anybody else. It’s just awesome for you. (Phil: Right.) Like there is a difference. I think sometimes people are more of a bystander in their own goal. They’re they’re passionate, they like it, that it would be nice to have it. But there’s the jumping over that line to be like so focused on it to actually drive to two different cities to do in person. You make me think of the kids who did like American Idol. And they edition like seven times, you know?

Phil Barth
You’re right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And, and you’re going after it. And so when I did finally, there was a space of time between the Indianapolis and the next audition, which was in Cleveland, Ohio. And I learned, right, I went up to Google wasn’t huge back then. But there were message boards, etc. And so I was like, “I’m gonna find out what people are doing to pass this audition. Because obviously, what I’m doing isn’t working.” And so I spent some time, I investigate and learn. And what I learned was a couple things. The first thing they do with any Who Wants to Be a Millionaire audition is they give you a set of questions, multiple choice questions, all of which have already played on the show. So I was able to pass the test because I just remembered what I had watched. Then they take you into another room those who pass the test, and they give you an audition form, which is a bunch of small, small answer questions as a question types and a pencil. And so what I learned was just because they give you a pencil doesn’t mean you have to use the pencil. So in Cleveland, I came there with a red marker, a highlighter, a four color pen, etc. And I dropped them on the table when they did it. And the guy sitting next to me, looked at that, looked at this pencil, they literally ah shit. Yes, and you cannot borrow my stuff. Right? So what … And the second thing is you write on their what you want them to know about you. So when in between questions when Meredith Vieira is asking you a human interest story type question, you’ve got something that will play. And so I wrote that in red ink. And the producer comes in looks at the red ink, asked me about question, we have a great conversation. Two weeks later, I got the card in the mail, you’re in the contestant pool. And I want to put on the show.

Lesley Logan
That, so first of all, this is okay. So you did something different than what they were suggesting. And everyone I think you need to it doesn’t matter what you’re trying to do. This is very key a couple times I can think about it in my own life is one, we were trying to get a global entry card. And, you know, and Brad, the way he filled out the applications, he did all of our stuff in all caps. So we went in for the interview, they knew we were together. So like they did. They’re like, “Oh, you guys are together.” They liked it the whole thing. Here you guys go. It was like really this interesting thing. He’s like Brad’s a guy, always do it all caps, because it’ll stand out amongst the list of people when they’re going through. So if you’re filling out some online, you can do all caps, it’s not going to affect anything. The other thing that I did was when I got my, when I got my first commercial, I had done zero auditions. I had done zero classes, I just went and the only thing that I did was I heard of them ordering lunch, as I was walking in to, to do the audition. And I just said, “Oh, that place has really great waffles.” Just so happened. I knew the place. I just it just and I know it’s lunchtime, but like, who doesn’t want to have a waffle? So anyways, I got a call back, you guys, I cannot cook, I booked a commercial being a chef. Because they liked the conversation. And so sometimes we are, you get a little like, you get too much in the weeds of something you forget that like actually, there’s a you got to get through the door first. And to get to that door, you’ve got to be different. You got to do something differently than everyone else. This is so cool. Red ink, I love it.

Phil Barth
Absolutely. Yeah, I love that story. You gotta be a little different. The other thing and this goes right into the keynote is you got to have a way I call it a frying the chicken, right? There’s all these voices inside, but you can’t do it, all the answer the other one and 20,000 … And you got to fry him, you got to have ways to just get that the voices inside. If you can’t calm the voices and, and the negativity, the fear, the negativity and the self doubt inside of you, you’re not going to be able to get there. And so I had to do that. And I’ve done that in multiple things. You know, I was afraid to ask my wife out on a first date. And I had to calm that down. And oh, you’re gonna get friends on … And and what I tell people is, there’s a bigger chicken that you need to worry about than anything you’re putting yourself out there. And that chicken is regret. You’re lying on your deathbed and it didn’t happen. You know, I couldn’t, I shouldn’t, I wouldn’t. Right. (Lesley: Yeah.) I didn’t give it my best. And that’s the thing you need to be afraid of. Be afraid of having regrets at the end. And when you put it in that way, it’s like, okay, that’s a way worse thing to avoid bigger chicken. That’s a turkey … (Lesley: Yeah.) Right. (Lesley: Yeah.) I need to be afraid of that. I need to take care of those chickens that are holding me back from doing my best and hitting that goal.

Lesley Logan
Oh my gosh, I want to take a step back but I love this. It’s like you, you’re talking about talk getting the voices down because it can be your own, or it could be others and like wanting 20,000 to me sounds very doable. It’s like it’s way different than a lottery. Like I would never, I don’t play the lottery because it’s like, even when it gets really big. It’s like it’s one in a 500,000 person chance. Like, I could get struck by a plane first. Like, I’m not gonna bring it on myself, but like, truly, so I but when I’m 20,000 sounds doable. But yes, it’s your voice or the people around you because you’re gonna have those negative people, like I’m sure as you’re studying, and you’re not getting further, I’m sure you had other people in your life where like, “You’re gonna keep going, Phil, like, like this, let this go.”

Phil Barth
And the thing was, I told everybody, you know, you need, you need to at least have an accountability partner for whatever you’re doing. And that was, of course, my wife. But I told everybody I’m like, and again, that was I didn’t want to have to go back to everybody later and say, “Well, I quit.” And into your point, some of the people were kind of like, “Oh, okay, that’s nice.” You know, patting you on the head. It’s like, okay, I know, you’re someone I can’t count on if I’m gonna go all out for this. And other people, like, “How can I help you?” Right. And it was really good and then I had somebody … you know. Everybody talked about those wild goals that could have. You did it. And it was like I could tell and believe you, but you did. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so yeah, I had this whole army of people, I felt like they were all behind me. But you’re right. Some of them like … right. But but you gotta know. Right. Who’s gonna who’s really got your back?

Lesley Logan
I think that’s so key if you and like, also being really kind yourself to protect yourself I’m going to those people who don’t when you’ve got something going on. And I think it can we can slip into this like, out of habit. Well, I always go to my sister about things so I’m gonna go but if your sister not, not my sister, but other people’s sisters might be like, the person who says the thing that you are most afraid of like, aren’t you? Like, aren’t you afraid to like wasting your time, like that was a waste of money like whatever and like you can go oh, you know, so you you haven’t built a muscle up yet to protect your your vision, your dream, your goal, you really have to make sure you are clear on who you’re telling it to.

Phil Barth
Exactly, exactly. And a lot of times, people I don’t want to sound sinister, but there’s some people who don’t want to see you get ahead, because then it makes them look bad, right? Oh, you did this and I never had the nerve, right? So they’re gonna pull you back down. I want to pull you back down to my level so that I don’t have to do anything big. (Lesley: Yeah.) So you just need to ignore those people and say, you know, I’m going to find the people that are going to help pull me up.

Lesley Logan
I love that. So what happens next? You put the reading. You got the call back. How did it .. Well, I’m sure our listeners like, “Did he get on the show?”

Phil Barth
Oh, yes, he did. Yeah. So it was summer when I got the, “Hey, you’re going into contest the pool.” And it was November. And I remember I was working out at the Y. And I didn’t have a cell phone. This is pre cellphone days. That’s how long ago was. And my wife called the Y and said he needs to call the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire contestant lineback. They want him in New York. And like the Y’s like, “Holy cow!”. And so they come and find me. And I tried calling them back. And eventually, I connected with them. And they said yeah, here’s the here’s where where you gonna fly. They flew you up at the time, they put you in the hotel. And here’s how it’s all gonna work. And it’s cool to come walking off the plane and have somebody with Mr. Barth on the … “Your limo is ready, sir.” Yes. (Lesley: That’s so fun.) I know, right. And so yeah, you spend a couple of days there because they shoot four episodes per day when they’re shooting. So the first day, you’re just in the greenroom. And they’re telling you, look, unless we got a run of people who crap out, you’re not gonna get on today, but we just need to have enough contestants so that we can shoot the four shows. (Lesley: Right.) So first day, yeah, you just back there, you’re making friends, basically. Second day, they okay, here’s the order. And a new group comes in because just in case we all crap out. And so one at a time in the greenroom is like two buildings away. They, they don’t want any cheating. Right. (Lesley: Wow) So you’re in the greenroom. And all you’re doing is talking or watching the show. And what happens is, you’ve very quickly made friends of these people that you’re in the room together with, and so you see somebody that you’re like, I think it’s seeing no, no, no, don’t say it, don’t say you’re gonna go home with $1,000. The final answer like oh, man, right? Or, or somebody else gets six figure payoff. You’re like, Oh, that is so cool for this person.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. That’s so fun.

Phil Barth
Yeah, eventually, it’s like, you’re up, right? And you’re actually in the behind the scenes, because they don’t know when the person in the hot seat is going to stop. So they bring you out and you talk with Meredith Vieira. And this is where the be it till you see it really, really helped me because I saw myself in the hot seat, looking at the questions, answering the questions, and, and being able to do this, and I over and over and over again. I practice that. And so what happened was, I mean, I think you could really get freaked out, right? If you stopped to think that a million people are gonna watch a show. And this is real money, etc. You can get freaked out. So what I did was before each question, she’s asking it and the cameras on her, I closed my eyes for a second. And the thought was, as soon as I open my eyes, this is just like the practice at home. There’s me, there’s a question, there’s nobody else. And it helped and it calm me down. And so I got on a roll. I needed the all I asked the audience like 4000 I think. Made it all the way to 32,000. And every time this was this was where you know, fate, lend the hand. Every time the question came up. I knew the answer before I saw the choices. It just happened to be stuff I knew. I was like, yes. So it was over two days. Because so it’s like, Okay, we’re done with this show. You run to the dressing room, change your clothes, come back and it’s a new day, because you got a new outfit on obviously.

Lesley Logan
Right. Right. Same audience. Same, yes. That’s all it’s, y’all this is how the sausage is made.

Phil Barth
This is it, right. Guess what, it was not the next day. But we came you know come … and I had the $32,000 question which I got. And I had two lifelines for the $64,000 question. It was a free guess. Here’s the backstory. When I was in high school, I was on a, we had a quiz team that played other people in the Toledo, Greater Toledo, Ohio area. And all year long my senior year, the advisor said, this team is really good. But we need somebody who knows Greek mythology, you both need to know Greek mythology, and I’m a senior in high school, give me a break. So I didn’t study it. And we still made it to the final four. There was never a Greek mythology question. So I showed him right. You know, you know, you know, right now, what the subject was for the $64,000 question is.

Lesley Logan
Oh, my God. Ah, no. And so you’re done. You didn’t have anything …

Phil Barth
I, I had two lifelines. I not only didn’t know Greek mythology, and that was the question. I hadn’t made any friends who knew Greek mythology in … in the 20 years. And so I took a guess. The phone friend didn’t know it. 50 50 gave me a 50 50 shot, right. There were two I guess the wrong one because it was a free guess. Yeah. I walked out with $32,000.

Lesley Logan
Right. And also like, that’s more than most people because if like most people did drop out, they didn’t make it past that 1000. And so like, all of your stuff, I think, obviously really helped you. I do have this question, though. Because I always wondered, do they do that music and lighting like in there on you like … like, you know what I mean? Like, that’s all I remember, like, oh my God, the stress of that.

Phil Barth
100%, 100%. And that’s why I close my eyes. And here’s the deal. And I just remember thinking this like holy cow. At $64,000 they take it down a notch. I mean, you can see nothing, but you and Meredith Vieira. I was like, I’m thinking as the question goes, holy crap, it got really dark in here because they don’t want any kind of signals from the audience all the game shows, gamble’s and all that 64 grand is concerning real money and it is (Lesley: Yeah.) and so it got it gets really dark and the music is there and and the horn when it goes off. It’s all that’s all how it is.

Lesley Logan
Oh my goodness. So okay, devastation that you missed that question, but you did get 32,000 which is like amazing. So after all this time, imagine at least over a year of your life like getting preparing yourself to be on this show. What happens next like, did you have like a hangover from like that? Like all the expectations that you had for it? Did you move on to another thing like what like what what ended up being the next thing for you?

Phil Barth
I love that question. I know the answer … that’s an wesome question. (Lesley: Thank you.) So immediate … immediate disappointment for if only I’d say Greek mythology, right. And, and when I called because my that quiz team advisor was one of my four different possibilities. He said, I would have laughed at you for 30 seconds. I don’t know Greek mythology. I just told you you needed to learn it. But anyway, disappointment, right? Disappointment, and like, Oh, crap, I beat myself up. My wife comes back and she goes, we just got $32,000. Like, oh, yeah, I guess I don’t need to be disappointed. Right. So so yeah, there’s that. It was actually a three year quest, from 99 till 2002. So there is that like, Oh, what am I going to do next for a little bit? And what happened was a while later, a friend of mine came into my office at work, he said, “Hey, you want to run a triathlon with me?” I’m like, “Hey, you want to go get drug checked?” But I did it …

Lesley Logan
You did triathlon after that. You got you just like moved on to a new thing.

Phil Barth
Eventually, the new thing presented itself and and it was a mini triathlon. Yeah. (Lesley: That’s good.) 6 miles, 6 miles of running. Yeah. It is nothing. Six miles … six miles running, 18 bike. But but yeah, and so it’s like in the back of your mind. Okay. I have had a couple of really big ideas. Number one, asking my wife out what it was nervous as hell. Number two, the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Okay, I’m gonna try a triathlon and, and so yeah, eventually, your next bolhag presents itself. Now what I tell people is, you may not find the bolhag right then. So look for a low hag or some little hairy ass goals … (Lesley: Yeah.) And make those little checkmarks and get a victory log, write it down, put it in there. We, a couple of years ago, I got frustrated with my favorite football team. But if they do every year, the Cleveland Browns. But anyway, you know, they were in the middle of a suck streak. And I said this year is going to be different. And you know, normally I make it through the first half of the first game and it was different. I made it through the first quarter. It’s just like, no. And so I told my wife, I said, “Look, every Sunday from here on out, I’m not going to watch football.” She’s like, “Right.” I said, “No, I’m not. Every Sunday afternoon, we’re going to have a little project and we’re going to do something together in some way make our house, our family, whatever better.” So a whole series of low hags and I need to tell you, and this was 2019. So again, fates gonna play … We painted, the repainted the basement, and then I build a home office just because I wanted to have a home office in the basement. I’m upstairs right now but I have a home office in the basement. (Lesley: Yeah.) Pre pandemic, we just happened to put together a nice home office in the basement …

Lesley Logan
That is amazing.

Phil Barth
But I mean, every … every week, it was this little, little thing. It’s just checking off obviously, that is so cool.

Lesley Logan
I think that’s amazing. Because I think people get a little upset, like, they are down on themselves when they can’t think of what they want to do in a year when they can’t think of what they want to be in 10 years. Like, there’s some people just like, have this block around it. And like, I have to figure this out. And it’s like, like something like, like, I gotta find my purpose isn’t it’s like, what if you like, if it’s that hard? And if it stresses you out that much? What if you just found something small to do? Like, what if you figure what would want to do in a month? And what if you figure (Phil: I love it) so that’s so cool. And I love you guys did that. Also way good timing for that. But I just really think that like what a great point to make because it can be tricky. If you’re if you’re listening to this right now. And you’re like in a valley right now. And you’re like, I don’t really know what my next thing is, it’s like, well, then just pick a little thing that really interests you and try it out. Like I think we forget that we can try things on for size. You know what I mean?(Phil: Oh, absolutely.) Like we forget, you used to go to the store, used to load up a dressing room and used to try things on, come out, look at it and see if you liked it. Like you used to do that. Now we’re like, I gotta buy it online, it comes to me and I better like … ship it back. (Phil: Right. Right. Yeah.) So I think we forget that, that that’s an option. I love that so much. So, um, so I also want to highlight your wife celebrated with you. Because I think a lot of times we do get disappointed in what we worked so hard on if it doesn’t meet the things we want it. But if you have someone around you to help celebrate, it really does make it easier to move on to your next thing.

Phil Barth
Yeah, and somebody to support you because it took a fair amount of time to do all the studying and everything I wanted to do and she supported me all the way. And, and the day of the Cleveland audition, I was getting ready to drive and she said, “You know what? I’m not gonna go.” I’ve I’ve tried this what why am I gonna fish and said, “Get in the car and go, it’s your dream, go get it.” And you know, that was the final push. So …

Lesley Logan
That’s why we need, what’s why we really do need to have a few good people around us to remind us because we can get in our own way. You just it’s so easy to to get in your own way. I love that so much. So so what are you, so now that the little, you did the low hags? What are you working on right now? Like, what are you being it till you see it right now? What’s that look like?

Phil Barth
A book. I wrote the we … I don’t know if we can talk about the book. But I wrote a book we call it a best sort of selling book. It’s called Great Things Happen Every Day. And and it’s best sort of selling because we put it out on Amazon, we put it out on the free Kindle book list. And in five days, it 1000s of copies. Right. And I remember waking up I was in Seattle and I looked at my phone. I was like holy crap. I did over 1000 free copies yesterday. Right? And so I went and that just blew me away when it went to number one on the bestseller list of free Kindle books about stress management. And I said, is that a best seller? You know, Kindle says yes. But my bank says no, because I earned sold 1000s of copies or in zeros of dollars. So I say it’s the best sort of selling … (Lesley: I love that so much.) Yeah, everybody say their best selling author, I’m a best source on international because somebody in Canada took when to international best sort of selling author, right? You go, but then I thought about it was like, okay, 1000s of people have taken this book and the book was to help people with their stress. Holy crap. That’s a win. Right? (Lesley: It’s a win.) It didn’t get me a new convertible, but it’s a win. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so the new one, the next one is another book, and it’s going to be called Fry Your Chickens. And it’s about it’s what we’ve been talking about, and how to calm those voices inside. Find your bolhag, try some low hags etc, and just how to get the life you deserve. And I hope this one is a best seller. But hey, if I’m a two time international best selling author, and a few 1000 people read it. I’m good with that.

Lesley Logan
You know what I think? There was I’m trying to think of the author. But it’s not coming to my mind right now. But she got so famous off this one book. And she had written all these other books before. And everyone’s like, “Oh my god, this is the best book.” I can’t like, “This is amazing.” Like, “How did you even get to writing this best selling book?” And she’s like, “Well, I wrote four other books that very few people bought.” (Phil: Yeah.) Like, she’s like I have, they’re actually selling really well now because people like this book, but like I’ve been, I didn’t just this isn’t my first rodeo like (Phil: Right.) I have other ones. So I do I do love that. I think um, you know, it’s, it’s so hard to no matter how old we are or what we’ve gone through. It’s so hard to remind yourself that like, no one’s an overnight success. It’s 10 years of work that got them to where it is. And you know what? I think when you say your best sort of selling author actually makes people listen … Like, wait, what did you just say? So that’s so cool. Okay, I can talk to you more. I mean, I would love like I mean obviously just to get to stress, but we’ll definitely make sure our people can hear where they can buy your book in just a moment. All right, Phil. So where can people find you, follow you get your amazing, best sort of selling book?

Phil Barth
So easiest places, just go to www.philbarth.com. I love the website. All I did was write a check. So it’s good if I had developed it. I know I mean … but no. But philbarth.com. It’s also available on Amazon. And those are the easiest ways I’m on Facebook, … like for a second? But but all of the links come off at philbarth.com.

Lesley Logan
Perfect. That’s so easy. And then is that where the people can find your book?

Phil Barth
Yes, yeah, it’ll take you to the Amazon page, to get it. Or philbarthbooks.com will take you right to my author page.

Lesley Logan
Wonderful. Thank you so much. Okay, before I let you go. Bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Phil Barth
Okay, so, so here’s the, here’s the ones. And everybody talks about having a bucket list and you need to. But you also need to have and it was an Irish guy that introduced it to me. And he always say that you need to have a bucket list. Things that you no longer want that are not serving you, things you no longer want to be, things you no longer want to do, things you no longer want to have. And if you don’t like that, where you can call it a chuckit list because I have a whiteboard in my home office. And I get the big ol volcano drawn. And then I just list, here are the things that I’m going to chuck into the volcano. (Lesley: Oh, I love this.) You need to make room for what’s on the bucket list. And for the next bolhag so that you can throw yourself at that one and not spend time and everybody knows the things they do that it’s like you look at it and I go too, right. It is playing this game on my phone really taking me to where I need to be and nothing wrong with an occasional game. But but what are you going to get rid of what is no longer serving you so that you can focus on the bolhag? That’s the biggest one. The second one is, and this goes for stress. This goes for goals. You need to start your day right. There’s there’s a study done by Harvard University, Sean Achor, Google the study, they divided people into two groups, those who started their day with negative news, versus those who started the day with solution focused news. Three minutes was all it took, 27% more likely the people with the bad news, 27% more likely to have a bad day. If you want to get after your bo hag, you need to start your day off positively. You know, pet the dogs, enjoy a cup of coffee and read a book, meditate, little exercise, yoga, something at the start of the day to get yourself off on the right foot. And you’re going to be after that. Bo Hag every time.

Lesley Logan
I love that. That’s such an interesting, I forgot about that study. That’s such a great reminder. Because I do I do agree. Like I think you can even even if you’re like but I need to listen to the news. It’s like okay, great. But before you hit play, take three to five minutes to listen to something really good. So that you already have like, something in there to combat that stuff because it’s so important to be informed. But sometimes that information can actually make you make decisions about your bolhag that the news has nothing to do with.

Phil Barth
Exactly. 100%

Lesley Logan
So you’re such an amazing storyteller. I can’t wait to read your next book, Fry Your Chicken. I will say this, you should look up there’s a bird, it’s a bird in New Zealand. It’s an extinct that looks almost like an ostrich dinosaur and it can be the big bird that you’re trying to like picture like, so I’ll you’ve got to find it because when I was in New Zealand I went to the bird thing in Wellington, sorry for my New Zealanders you’re like, “Lesley it’s called this.” It’s a it’s a sanctuary, it’s amazing. I went this tour and they show this prehistoric bird that I’m so sad is gone because it’s pretty ugly, but it looks really fucking cool.

Phil Barth
I’m gonna totally look that up.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, you can just for pictures, just for people to pick their, to pick the thing that they want to fry the chickens to get towards.

Phil Barth
You can fry this bird is already extinct. It’s a bummer that it’s extinct but you don’t really frying it but it doesn’t gives you the visualization. I pulled stork out of the … I guess ostrich is also pretty big bird.

Lesley Logan
Yes, there are big birds and they run very fast everyone, their eggs are very pretty. (Phil: I love it.) Anyways, a fun fact that I know. Well Phil, thank you so much for being on the podcast. Everyone how are you going to use these tips in your life? Please share them with Phil, share with the @be_it_pod. Let us know and do us a huge favor. If you know someone who should be reading his book or who needs us every reminded of the story. You need to share this podcast with them. If you don’t know how to do on social, you can send it to them through a text message, you can send it to them an e mail. Like we can help you but it is so important that more people hear the good words from our guests and from you people that they know like and trust. Thank you so much for listening. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over on IG at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
Be It Till You See It is a production of Bloom Podcast Network.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan. And me Brad Crowell. Our associate producer is Amanda Frattarelli.

Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.

Brad Crowell
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