How Are Your Hormones

Dictating Your Life?

Ep. 55 ft. Jenn Pike

“Your body holds a lot of wisdom, tune into what she has to say and start to lead from there.”

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Jenn Pike is a functional diagnostic nutritionist and medical exercise specialist with over 20 years of experience. She helps females recognize the impact that hormones have on every aspect of their body and then helps empower them to become educated in how to utilize their hormones to their benefit. Founder of The Hormone Project, Synched, and The Simplicity Project, Jenn helps females decode what their body is telling them.
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From brilliant questions comes freeing answers. Uncover the truths the Jenn Pike, diagnostic nutritionist and medical exercise specialist, holds about the female body from her years of asking “but why”? Lesley Logan and Jenn discuss all things female from cycles, mood shifts, hormone balance, to overcoming stigmas.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • How Jenn’s curiosity led her to her career
  • Medical ranges & full panel testing
  • Cycles vs. Periods
  • Seed Cycling
  • The affect hormones have on your mental health
  • Jenn’s B.E.I.T action items for transformation
  • How to break the stigma with the female cycle




Lesley Logan
Hello, welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast today I have Jenn Pike for you. Oh, this this interview is juicy, juicy, juicy. I mean it is such good stuff you are going to want to relisten to it, you want to take notes. Ladies, this one is for you and if you’ve got men in your life umm, I definitely umm agree with her what she’s at the end. We want to have more men aware and educated at this because it destigmatizes, umm periods and cycles and hormones in women and basically I’m giving away what the interview is about. But Jenn Pike is a functional nutritionist and medical exercise specialist. She is a wealth of knowledge. She has been doing this for over 20 years and umm basically y’all, there I know that sometimes you are like “I’m gonna take on this day. I’m so excited. I love where my goals are going. I love for this … I love what I’m wanting.” You love it, I know you do and then you feel like you can’t do it. And you think it’s in your head or you think you need to take another course or you think you need to learn more about this, you got to read this book and the truth is it might actually be and probably is, whats going on with your hormones. What’s going on in your cycle. What’s going on in your body. And so she comes in and she is going to educate you and your empower you and we I her tips for how you can Be It Till You See It at the end. (Lesley: gasps) I mean, I’m not kidding. They’re like they’re word worthy, really. If we were doing that, which we are not, we’re not, we’re not. Anyways, I can’t wait for you to listen to this entire conversation. Check out how you can follow Jenn and all the programs she I mean, all the programs she’s got going on that will literally help you, Be It Till You See It. But also become aware and educated on what your body needs, what’s optimal for you. And that’s why I wanted to have her on. And so check out this interview, here it comes right after this message.

Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and business fitness coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.


Lesley Logan 2:39
All right, welcome back to Be It Till You See It. I am so freakin’ stoked about today’s interview. Y’all. Okay, let me just, I’m just gonna be really, really uhhh. I’m gonna tell you what I did. I heard Jenn Pike on my friend, umm Coach Jenny’s podcast, her strong, umm find her strong, and I literally finished the interview and was DM-ing her like, “I want you on my podcast,” I it was a total like, not even, “Hi, you’re so awesome.” I was like, “Hi, you’re amazing. And here’s what I want to do. I love all the things you said so much. And I want to get that out to all of the people who listen, my Pilates clients, to my coaching clients” and so luckily, she didn’t go, “Wow, Lesley, you’re weird.” She said, she said, she said, “Oh, that’d be great. I can do these things. I’m just really busy right now.” And I was like, “That’s fine.” So we’re finally having this conversation. Jenn Pike, thank you for being here. Will you take a minute to tell everyone, who you are, where you’re from, and what you’re up to?

Jenn Pike 3:36
Well, thank you first of all for reaching out and having me on here. So my name is Jenn Pike. I’m a functional diagnostic nutritionist and medical exercise specialist and the founder of The Hormone Project. So I really help women understand what they you know, in my opinion, should have known about their bodies from as young as you know, being a young girl before going into puberty. And I meet women exactly where they are now on this journey of their health in their body and help them to understand, the signs and the symptoms, and the stories that their bodies are telling them. How to decode, what it is that’s going on. And really empower them to know how to take care of their health. How to take care of their body. How to be an advocate for themselves and to do it in a way where you know it’s feeding back into their own vitality and vibrancy and to be so connected to the body that they have.

Lesley Logan 4:24
I mean. When I heard you say that what we teaching them what they should have already known. It is so crazy what we are not told about our (Jenn: I know) bodies. And also umm, what what because we trust our doctors and you know and what they say and so we’re like, “Okay, yeah, we’ll do this,” and then you find out later on like, actually you’re not that that that that wasn’t the right the best thing for you, at least, maybe it was but there wasn’t other information given to you about how that’s gonna affect your, affect your body. (Jenn: Yeah) So can you can you share like a little bit like, what what made you want to do this? Like, did I don’t know that you grow up going, “Well, one day, I’m going to like teach women about their bodies.” Like, what was it that got you really interested in this?

Jenn Pike 5:07
So mine kind of was like that a little bit. When I look back, like I’ve always been very much involved in fitness and athletics. My dad took me into my first gym experience with him when I was six, not to work out, but but seeing him move and do that. And my mom would go out, you know, to Jazzercise class with the ladies in the neighborhood. And so I just always grew up with that being like a very normal thing. My older sister is 12 years older, and she was always doing like, you know workout videos, like Cher’s workout video, or whoever it was, (Lesley laughs) all of that. And so, I just was very curious. And I always loved moving my body, and, you know, I was active. And then when I got into high school, you know, I was, I was always just very aware, very curious as to what was happening in my own body. Conversations I was having a friends, things were being taught in gym class, I was also modeling at that time for a lengthy period of time. And you know, in that industry, everything was about do whatever you’ve got to do to just be thin. It was a period of time where like, you know, Kate Moss was the body that everyone was going, and that’s not my body and my frame. And I, there was some struggle there. And I just kept thinking to myself, like it, “It shouldn’t be this way, you know, what is it that’s going on?” Umm I started to realize how little information there was for those of us that had our periods. And we’re going through that, and birth control, and all of those things. And so I just kept asking more questions, I was always the person going, “But why?” And I would just dig deeper and ask and start to do my own research. And then I went, I lived abroad, modeling, working for a while, came back went to school. And that’s where I started off in human anatomy, biomechanics and physiology. And that again, to it was just like, the human body is so insanely brilliant. And oftentimes, it’s us that’s getting in the way of feeling our best. And it’s because we haven’t been properly educated so we’re not empowered to know, right from wrong for us, or, you know what to ask the doctor or when the doctor says, you know, “You’re totally fine.” And you’re sitting there and are like, “I’m not fine, like I something, I’m telling you, this isn’t me something is out of balance or out of whack.” And you, you know, get recommended to take something or whatever it might be. So many women that I work with, anyways, they’re still leaving those offices, they may have been told what to do, but they don’t know why. (Lesley: Right) And they, they don’t know how they can shift their lifestyle or, or any of that. So, you know, it started there for me, I was working in a very strong athletic background, I was working with all athletes, majority of men, when I started, then I was working Personal Training, a lot of women and a lot of moms, I didn’t have kids at the time then. But I still could see that we were missing something. That no matter what type of exercise and you know, meal plan that I was creating for them, something was missing. (Lesley: Yeah) I couldn’t quite pinpoint their mood instability, their sleep issues, their inflammation, and I was like, “I need to dig deeper,” and went back to school. At that time, you know, 20 years ago, became a holistic nutritionist that opened it up more. Fast forward a few years later, became a mother for the first time. And then I was like, “Oh, whoa, (Lesley: whoa) this is different.” (Lesley: Yeah. Yeah.) This is different. And then, you know, I’ve just continued to stay a student and then went back and became a, you know, a functional medicine, diagnostic nutritionist, and I run a lot of different testing. And it’s been an evolution over decades.

Lesley Logan 8:31
I love it because so you’re a total questioner and learner, like, you can tell like, (Jenn: Yeah) you’re like, “I am curious about this. I’m gonna go,” and and I think a lot of people are afraid to ask the questions. (Jenn: Yeah) Like, because people are afraid of being wrong. And it’s like, well, actually, you don’t even know if you’ll be wrong, you might be asking the question that other people are having, and no one’s talking about. And um …

Jenn Pike 8:51
Almost always, and I would say, “No, you bring that up.” And it’s such a good one is that I’m constantly encouraging women in our programs, like, “Please be the brave one to ask the question, because I am telling you, if you are thinking it, so many others are,” and it’s when we start to to voice it that other women are like, “Wait a second. I’m not the only one.” (Lesley: Yeah) Like, “I feel that too tell me more.”

Lesley Logan 8:53
I so I suffered from stomach issues for over 10 years and going to doctors after doctors and I had a doctor literally make me feel like I was the crazy one. And I’m like, “But I have pictures.” Like, “This is what I look like in the morning and this is what I look like in the evening.” And they sent me to an infectious disease doctor in the hospital and they’re like, “Do you know why you’re here?” And I’m like, “No,” I think that he doesn’t know what to do with me. So he sent me here, but now I’m a little bit panicked. Like, “This is the ebola clinic.” … (Lesley laughs) This is the … (Jenn: You’re in a hazmat suit, What is going on!) Yeah, what is going on with my stomach? I’m just have a lot of bloating and I refuse to take medication for that because that’s not, I don’t want to cover the symptom. Like I didn’t (Jenn: Right) have this my whole life. Right? So but I, it was weird for me to talk about it in the beginning because kind of embarrassing, like no one (Jenn: Yeah) wants to hear talk about all that. But when I started to what I found out is so many women were having those same problems. And I was like, I became this like, advocate of figuring out what it was and finding someone who could solve my problems. And that person saved my life. And then I found a holistic Doctor who, who I work with, whenever there’s like a flare up. But I do think it’s like, a lot of people are afraid to ask the question, because they think that they should just know it, or this is what everyone does, or we just have, this is how life is. And you said, you went to the school 20 years ago, I feel like that was and maybe I’m wrong. But it feels like that was a pretty early time to get involved in holistic nutrition.

Jenn Pike 10:47
Yeah, it was I mean, back then. So and I, I’m 41. So I was 20 when I decided, like, I started early, I finished high school early, I did my traveling, I started, you know, college before I was even, you know, legal to have a drink, which I know you’re in the US. But here in Canada, typically you’re like 18-19 when you go. And so it when I did that everybody around me who was looking at nutrition health, they were going to be a dietician, or they were going to do like kinesiology or that. And I was like, “Hmm, it’s not that.” And I had had an experience with hearing somebody talk about a naturopathic doctor and I was like, “What’s that?” And so went and you know how to first consult and I was like, “Oh, this, this is fascinating.” You are spending an hour or more with me asking me all about like, my, my health history, my cycle, you’re looking into my eyes, you’re looking at my tongue, you’re like feeling my pulse, you’re looking at, you’re testing my hair, you’re, it was so much deeper than what I had ever experienced. And nothing was being rushed and like shuffle out. (Lesley: Right) And so that I came away and was like this, “This is this is my thing. This is what I want to empower women with. This is the missing link.” We don’t know enough. (Lesley: Yeah) How could we possibly make the best choices for ourselves when we don’t even understand what it is that we’re choosing? And then the doctor environment. There’s a wonderful doctor, there’s wonderful everything, and then there’s not wonderful every …

Lesley Logan 12:09
Right. I agree, I think if anyone’s listening, so is actually a doctor. Like, there’s a lot of wonderfulness in you and there’s a lot of great reasons to have one.

Jenn Pike 12:17
Absolutely. Absolutely. That being said, I think a lot of the struggle for women, specifically, because women are dismissed more than men (Lesley: Yeah) across the board, is that when you go in with an issue, and they don’t know how to help and support you, oftentimes, you’re either told you’re fine. Or why don’t we put you on the pill? Or how about an antidepressant or you are referred out of their office to someone else who also doesn’t really understand why you’re there, because what’s going on with you is actually quite simple things that we could be shifting if you had the right support and mechanisms to know what that is. And when it comes to women and hormones or their thyroid or their gut health. So much of it, it peels back to what is going on, on that internal level of support, nutrition, lifestyle, sleep, stress, all of that, and they just don’t have the time and the appointments to help somebody go through that.

Lesley Logan 13:09
Yeah, I feel like their hands get a little tied with all the different things and I (Jenn: Yeah) and they’re, you know, they’re expected to know so much about so many things, but you can’t go deep on any of that. So it’s a little tricky (Jenn: Exactly) about your, like, (Jenn: They’re general practitioners.) Yeah. And so, um, you know, I want to chat about because I think it’s easy for people to go, “Well, my doctor said, my levels are fine.” (Jenn: Yeah) And if you’re listening to this, and you’re ever like, “I don’t feel fine.” Like you’re not crazy, like you don’t feel fine and it’s okay. And I say to speak and that’s one of the reasons why I was listening to Jenn on another interview, like I have to talk to her because I want to bring her to you all because my doctor said everything in my blood was fine. They said we were in a panel and you’re fine. And the guy that I worked with, who was amazing. He was the person who was making the food for NASA astronauts (Jenn: Oh wow!) because you know, they’re gonna be in space for however long, they have to take all (Jenn: Yeah) of their food with them and they can’t (Jenn: Right) eat the same things because everyone needs different things to run at their optimum level. (Jenn: capacity, yeah) Right so um, so he left that and then he’s been working with athletes and I got them through a friend and and he goes, “first of all this is”, he gave me a packet like 276 pages, like 276 tests is what it was was like 30 pages and he’s like, “This is a full panel.” And he said, in this full panel he’s like, “You are in range and air quotes,” (if you can’t see what I’m doing) he’s like, “But you’re one point in” and here’s what what they do when they when they’re they didn’t know what the range was so they had to guess and so it’s like the Olympics they took a bunch of people and they took off the top two and a half percent and the bottom two and a half percent and (Jenn: Yup) they got this is range, that’s normal, but like you yourself might need to be higher to run at a in something to run at the best level. And so I was telling Jenn, um before the recording. Y’all I was at red lights, crying. I don’t know why. And I was like, “I think I’m depressed. I have everything I want, I have an amazing husband, I live in the coolest place. Like I get to travel to teach.” I like everything on my vision board, check, check, check. And I was so sad and I didn’t know why. And he’s like, you have your B12 is one point in a range, your vitamin D is one point in a range, you’ve no testosterone like, this is happening… these metals and he’s like, “Yeah, you’re depressed,” like you’re you (Jenn: Yeah) can’t not be. And so one of the things I wanted to ask you about is like, what are some of those levels that if people are maybe lacking confidence, or lacking will, or just having those energy moments, like, what is it that they should be looking at? Or can they ask their doctors about? Like, how can we arm them? Because I feel like you can’t, it’s hard to have confidence or go after something if like, your hormones and your body are literally saying “no.”

Jenn Pike 15:46
Yeah. So I mean, you bring up a really great point in that those ranges, the lab ranges and your individual ranges are not necessarily going to be the same. And the lab ranges of like, what is fine versus what’s optimal. We’re trying to help keep you in a place of optimal not just okay, no one wants to feel just okay. And so you need it. I wish there was like the most simplified way to answer this. (Lesleya laughs) But the reality is, is you need to know what to ask for when you’re going in. So you don’t want basic blood work, you really want to full panel, you want to ask for your hormones to be tested, you want to ask for your thyroid to be tested, you want to ask for like, “What do you have that you can test me on? I would like to have that tested.” And then the other side of it is the testing is great but who is going to walk you through the results? Who’s going to actually turn the page around, or share on the screen with you and say, okay, “Lesley, these are your results. This is what’s going on, this is what this actually means, this is what this could lead to.” And so, the hard answer for people to hear is you probably aren’t going to get all of those answers in that appointment and in that doctor’s appointment, you’re going to have to invest outside of that (Lesley: Yeah) you’re going to have to pay for that care. That’s the hardest thing for people to understand and I get that. But that is where it starts is you knowing what to ask for. And then working with somebody who like this is what they do. They can look at those numbers. And in a moment in the blink of an eye say, “Look, this is what’s going on here. These levels, this is why you’re feeling that way.” And as soon as you work with somebody who can help you understand that, you feel better right out of the gates because you’re like, “It is not in my head. I am not making this up. I am not like crazy. This isn’t me being dramatic.” But and we know we know when something is internally off. It’s everyone else around us. That tells us, “No, no, you’re fine.”

Lesley Logan 17:38
Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, because there’s no easy answer to that. What is something? Who would they be googling to find in their area? Like, depending on where they live? Like, is there like a name for that? Is it somebody like you? Is that …

Jenn Pike 17:54
Well, yeah, so they could be looking for an FDN, which is a functional diagnostic nutritionist, a functional medical doctor, it depends where you are. Some of them might refer to themselves as an integrative practitioner or a holistic doctor. Here’s what I always say to people. The first thing I’d recommend that you do is reach out to your circle and your community and say, “I’m struggling with perimenopause. I’m struggling with PMS,” to “have any of you gone to a naturopath or functional practitioner?” Like someone who’s going to spend the time and do the testing and take you through it. Can you please like throw some names up here? Because as women, like we refer people to things all the time, (Lesley: Yeah) buy this shirt, drink this thing, you know, do your hair with this. So we need to start to do that about our health as well. (Lesley: Yeah) So that is the first thing that I would recommend, is reach out to the community. If you’re like, “I don’t have those kind of people Jenn, like my friends don’t give two hoots about their health. Like I don’t have anybody who’s in the same, you know, vicinity as me,” then that’s when I would Google and those keywords integrative, holistic, functional, those types of things.

Lesley Logan 19:00
Yeah, thank you for that because I think that that is where it’s, like, easy to get confused, like, “What am I looking for?” (Jenn: Yes) So you know, as women, we do have a cycle and I grew up like my, like, I grew up my mom’s cycle was very intense. And I grew up with, “Oh my God, I never want that intense.” Like, you could just tell like, it’s coming. (Lesley laughs) (Jenn: Yeah, yeah. Hi) And, and so, um, you know, I’m just wondering, like, um when it comes to our hormones, and obviously, like, you know, I grew up and I don’t know if it’s like that in Canada, but like, for us, it’s like, almost like, “Oh, my periods here.” Oh, like it’s like this horrible thing. And so then when I had these health problems, I didn’t have a period I was like, “Well, this is convenient,” which is like, (Jenn: Right) the worst thing in the world because that’s actually mean something is wrong, but I was just like, “Well, I don’t have to worry about it.” (Lesley laughs)

Jenn Pike 19:47
Yeah. There’s a bonus. (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah. So think that is just ubiquitous around the world for women. We you know, I work with women globally in many different countries, many different cultural backgrounds, many different philosophies ways they’ve grown up. Very rarely do I converse with a woman who’s like, when I was growing up, it was such a joyous time in the house and it was I was really taught it. For most women it’s like, it was shameful. It was gross. It was hidden. It was horrible. I, you know, dreaded every time that it was coming. And I lost days out of every month of my life because of it. That’s most women story.

Lesley Logan 20:23
Yeah. And that’s, that’s the thing that like, first of all, no one told me that in the video in the fifth grade. (Lesley laughs) (Jenn: Right. Right) That was not said …

Jenn Pike 20:30
This is where the problem all started. This is where it all started.

Lesley Logan 20:33
Yeah. In fifth grade, when they separated us and we watched this video, and it was like, then the boys were giggling and making fun and the girl and it’s like, “What is what is happening to me?” (Jenn: Yup) So you know, is there, like, can we chat a little bit like, I feel like at certain times of the month, you know, like, you can like take on the world. And there are certain times of the month that you feel like you can’t. Is there like a prime like is there some way we should expect to feel as far as like confidence or energy or being able to take things on?

Jenn Pike 21:03
Yeah. So we go through four different phases in our cycle. So our cycle and our period are not the same thing. Your cycle is from day one of your bleed all the way through until you have your next bleed, that’s a full cycle. Most women it’s going to range anywhere from 23 to 35 days. And in that cycle, you have four different phases. So you have the phase that you bleed in, which is your actual period, when you come out of your period, you actually have what’s referred to as the first phase, which is the follicular phase. And this is where your body, your hormones, and estrogen and testosterone are starting to climb, your uterine lining is starting to thicken again, this is typically where we actually feel more connected to our body. We do well with the estrogen surge, we feel clear, more focused, energized, happier, we’re like gung ho we want to create new projects are super, you know, on point leading into ovulation, ovulation comes it tends to be much more of ah, you know, I want to put myself out there confidence can peak a little higher sex drive, typically. And the way I’m painting this picture, this isn’t going to be for every woman, I’m just going to kind of give one example. And then I’ll apex it on the other side. Once ovulation happens, you’ve now had this dip in estrogen and testosterone and your luteinizing hormones increase, as long as you’ve ovulated, your progesterone also increases. And that actually is a much more calming hormone, it helps us to integrate, it brings us into a place that is much more reflective in that luteal phase, which are the couple of weeks coming into your period. It’s a time to really look at like what is working and what is not. It’s time to finish projects, it’s a time when you can feel really connected to your body. And then this is one of the times where you’re also know if things are out of balance. If that like 7 to 10 day period of time before you bleed, again, your moods all over the place, your emotional, your sleep is off, your gut is off, you’re spotting, your breasts are tender, like you’re just like, “Oh my God, here we go again, my skin’s breaking out,” all the things are happening. That’s a really strong indication that something is out of balance in your system. And it could be that you didn’t ovulate that you have lower progesterone, you have too much estrogen. It could be that all the hormones are sitting flat. It could be that testosterone and DHA is too high. So this is why testing and testing at the appropriate time of the month is such a valuable tool for women. Because it when you see it and someone’s explaining it to you, you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I feel like you just described me to a T.”

Lesley Logan 23:35
Yeah, no, I’m like, I’m like sitting here and I’m like taking it all in. And I like that whole part where it’s like that 7 to 10 days before. You just said like, “This is what you’re going to feel like,” but this is also you could feel a look where things are out of whack. And I think we’re taught, or at least I felt like I felt like that’s just the normal thing. Like things are out of whack. And (Jenn: Yeah) what it sounds like is it and I did experience this. I did seed cycling for a long time (Jenn: Yeah) because I felt like my swings were too big. And I was like, “Y’all my boobs are a little bigger because of COVID and age, but they were very small back then.” And I was like, “They are too small to be this tender. Like this is not fun for me.” (Jenn: Yeah. Yeah) And so I heard about seed cycling and I did it consistently for three years. Not only did I literally make myself like clockwork, with my cycle, I stopped breaking out, I don’t have tenderness and I’ve weaned off of that and it hasn’t been an issue. But I did notice that difference in that time before. It was almost like my period was a surprise each time because I was like, “Oh, I didn’t even know it’s coming) … so good. (Jenn: Yeah) That’s so fascinating. Okay, (Jenn: Yeah) so thank you for walking us through that. I think that that it it’s helpful to know like, just when you have the information, like you said, you just can expect things a little different and you can know more about what how you should be feeling as opposed to like, “Why do I feel like this versus yesterday I felt better.”

Jenn Pike 24:57
Yeah. And it’s also it’s like it’s how we shouldn’t and how you could, because all of these things are going to be in flux in a woman’s body all the time. Not just based on, you know, like, the rhythm doesn’t set itself. Your hormones are chemicals and their chemical messengers that are gathering information and fuel from your life all the time. So the stress that you’re feeling, the environment that you’re living in, the amount of sleep that you get, the calendar that you live through, the job that you love, or that you don’t enjoy the nutrients that are coming into your body, the inflammation, you’re managing, like, all of those things that age that you are at, and then our genetics, and there’s so much that’s involved in it. But again, we’re not we’re not taught that’s when it happens to us, we isolate ourselves quietly on an island of pain and struggle, and think that that we’re broken, and something is really wrong with us when in fact, we are not designed as women to be the same all the time. And so there’s nothing wrong with you, you just need to understand when something might be kind of flowing outside of what feels normal and healthy for you. And that’s when you can get some help.

Lesley Logan 26:10
Oh, this is amazing, amazing information. I’m really excited about it. Because I think that, you know, we, it’s so easy for us to be to think that something outward is um a problem. But we don’t, we don’t actually take it on, like I said that we could take care of, we don’t see how it affects our body, or like this job is stressing me out. But we don’t go, it’s also affecting my sleep, which is affecting my digestion or it’s affecting my cycle. And so we don’t see how these things that bother us are actually being internalized. And so it sounds like our cycle is going to really be the thing that tells us the most, what is in in what is working for us and what is not working for us. Um, so I want to go back to you a little bit though. What are you excited about right now? And and how are you because I saw all the different projects that you do and the people that you help? How do you decide what you’re doing next? Is that your curiosity that’s taking you there? Or do I do have this like master plan out there? What’s going on?

Jenn Pike 27:10
Oh, I’d love to tell you that I’m that you know, organized that I have this master plan. I’m very much, I’m a I’m a feeler and I’m very intuitive in terms of like, this is just what is feeling like the calling right now. It’s been, I mean, the Hormone Project is my baby. That is the thing I focus the most energy on. Our team has been expanding a lot because we have so many more women that are coming to us for help. And we’re quite specialized in the approach that we take and how we do this. You know, so I’m still so excited about teaching this, I never get bored of it at all, I get more excited, the more women that start to understand this. I also teach an online studio, Synced, which is I base movements for the women I work with all around their cycle. So if they have a period still, then all their movement in terms of how heavy there lifting, modality that they’re using, all the methodology is, is teaching them how to do it based on their own rhythms and cycles and how they feel. And for women that I work with who are menopausal or postmenopausal is teaching them how they can choose to if they want to tap into the lunar cycle, the moon, and just how like we’re so interwoven into all of this as women and I give the example when people get confused about it to say, “Okay, think about the difference of your energy and your environment on a sunny beautiful day (Lesley: Yeah) versus like dark, cold, rainy, gloomy day”, you literally are the same person who went to bed at night, but the only thing that changed was your environment. And it changes the way that you show up and how you feel. And it’s like if you hang out with people who are like sunshine, and you just like, Oh my gosh, like I feel so good when I’m with them,” or you hang out with people that are like a dark cloud. (Lesley: Yeah.) And you know, suck the energy from you. So we are responding and ebbing and flowing like that all the time. And, you know, honestly, for me, at the end of the day, I just want to teach women more. I really want to empower them with the education so that they don’t feel lost.

Lesley Logan 29:13
This, it’s so cool. I can see like, I can first like and see it in your eyes and you light up about it. But also like it’s a it’s similar like when I I teach Pilates. And (Jenn: Yeah) I just love more people doing Pilates is the greatest full body exercise, you can make it as intense or as light as you need it to be and you can do it anywhere. You don’t need to even invest in equipment, right? So it’s my thing and so the more people who do it, it’s like, I can’t get bored because it’s like I can see the benefits in a different human body and like what it did for them and and one of our members recently, because the way I teach it is always like you know, ask yourself what else is possible for right now, if you can’t take your legs over your head today? (Jenn: Yeah) For whatever reason, like what else can you do? And like how that actually asking yourself that is like training your mind to do that when you’re outside of the mat, right? And she said, “So thanks for always teaching us to stand up for ourselves and take priority in our time. And, and do this because I had to do a difficult thing today. And I did it because of this class.” And I was like, (Jenn: Oh, it’s awesome) it’s amazing, right? So I totally agree. Like, it’s hard to, it’s, it’s like, it’s like, you know, the more that if your company, your business expands and the more lives are affecting, it’s almost like, you’re like, “How can we do more? How can we get to more people?” How? Because it’s, it will, it will change a woman’s life when they actually can feel like they’re not crazy. When they have knowledge and information, and then what kind of changes they make in their day? How that affects if they’ve got kids, like how that affects the kids in their life, you know, if my mom wasn’t told, like, “Hey, that’s just how your cycle is,” like, what what would have been different in the household (Jenn: Right) you know?

Jenn Pike 30:49
Yeah, exactly. And this is it, it’s you know, the all of these moments and everything you’re talking about. These are like, they’re the catalysts. They’re like the pebble that creates the ripple. And it just continues to move forward. And so it’s like you said, you know, you could look at something like Pilates and movement and be like, “Oh, it’s just exercise?” No, no, that is like, it’s a tool. And it’s what you choose to do with the tool, and the ripple that you can create from that. (Lesley: Yeah) It’s just the stimulus. So I love it. I’m here for all of it.

Lesley Logan 31:19
Okay, Jenn. So how can people follow you what’s the best place for them to go to get more information if they want to educate themselves more.

Jenn Pike 31:27
So there’s a couple of different ways that they can access some awesome free info, they can listen to the podcast, “The Simplicity Sessions,” we’ve got, you know, 100, and almost 70 episodes that are on there. Also …

Lesley Logan 31:37
Congratulations, that is a lot. That’s amazing. (Jenn: Thanks! …) (Lesley and Jenn laughs)

Jenn Pike 31:42
And I have a YouTube channel as well, they can just check out Jenn Pike, and then Instagram, lots of info every single day, my name is spelt with two Ns. So @jennpike, and then my website triple And if they’re interested in there, you know, they want to work with our team or run functional testing. We offer complimentary discovery calls, just to hop on with one of our team advisors, like, What is going on? Are we even the best fit for you? If not, who could we refer you out to? And you know, I find a lot of women, they literally are just looking for someone to hold the space and listen to them.

Lesley Logan 32:17
Yeah. 100% like, it’s so true. And, um it’s it, I can’t wait, I hope that in like, less than 10 years, I get to turn around and go, “Wow, it’s like totally normal to talk about these things.” (Jenn: Ah, me too) There’s, there’s information out there, I just hope because it’s I just I so believe in the potential of people. And I believe that every single person is on this planet to affect people’s lives around them. And if you don’t feel good, and you also think it’s all in your head, because no one everyone says you’re fine. It holds you back from like, fully find your potential. So I’m just so grateful that you came and shared so much like so many nuggets of information. But I always ask this question, because I find that that inspiration is amazing. But transformation is what I want for people. And so if they, what are your steps to like just one or two. If you want to go for three, that’s fine, but like steps to Be It Till You See It. Like, what would be some action steps they can take right now?

Jenn Pike 33:17
The first thing that I’d recommend for women to focus on is please try and keep your blood sugar stable. Don’t go these massive periods of time without eating. If you’re getting nauseous, dizzy, lightheaded, you feel everything that’s not pin down, you need to check in with your blood sugar. Stable blood sugar is going to help to lead to support it adrenals, thyroid, body composition in great sleep. The other thing that I would say to you is listen to your body’s language. She’s communicating with you all the time. If you’re bloated and gassy. If you’re not pooping. If you are having those symptoms, listen to what she’s trying to tell you ask for help. Your you know your bowel movements every day, their data, your period every month, that is data. So your body holds a lot of wisdom, tune into what she has to say and start to lead from there.

Lesley Logan 34:03
Oh my gosh, I think you’re gonna win on the most unique action steps anyone (Lesley and Jenn laughs) has given. But I really love these so much. I mean, I can’t say it enough and when Brad and I recap, which it’ll be very interesting to hear all of Brad’s insight (Lesley laughs) on today’s episode. But it’s like, as someone who has done that there is when you have that information, it’s like you feel a little more unstoppable and you definitely feel seen and understood and you and you can go from there. So thank you for, frankie for that. Thank you for being here. Everyone please (Jenn: Yeah, you’re welcome) please do us a huge favor, screenshot this podcast, share it to your Instagram tag @jennpike, tag myself. She’s two Ns, we have the link in the show notes below. Tag the @be_it_pod so that other people in your life can hear about this. Maybe you live somewhere where you don’t feel comfortable telling your friends all about your cycle. But if you share this podcast, we can talk about … to them for you.

Jenn Pike 34:55
I want to hear about your cycle.

Lesley Logan 34:57
Yes, and she definitely does. (Lesley laughs)

Jenn Pike 34:59
I just want to say something quick on that before you go when you’re talking about, you know, doing the recap with your husband. So I have two kids, a girl and a boy, my son knows just as much about the female body and cycles as my daughter. And that’s on purpose because part of the stigmatism and the shame and embarrassment ends when we stop excluding men and boys from the conversation as well. You know, it’s like, (Lesley: Yeah) there’s going to come a time in a boy’s life where he’s gonna, you know, you’re either going to be around a woman or your girlfriend or whatever it is, and you need to be able to understand what she’s going through. And as I always say, to my son, like, “Bud, you wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for our bodies doing this. So you should be darn grateful.”

Lesley Logan 35:36
… so one of one of one of our listeners, she has three boys and four, she is very big on education that she’s like, “I don’t care who you are married to? (Jenn: Yup) What their gender is, but you’re going to be around women, and this is something you should know. (Jenn: Exactly!) And it’s really important.” And it’s, you know, I’m my husband I really opened and the other day, I need to do this, this test and I was like, “Can you sign me up for this test?” Right? And he’s like, “I had to answer some really personal questions I’m like, I’m sure you knew the answers to them. It’s not like I hide it from you.” (Jenn and Lesley laughs) (Jenn: Yeah) So um, but it’s true. It’s not like that’s on him. It’s on how he was raised. I wasn’t raised with it as an open thing. And so, (Jenn: Yeah) you know, we’ll change every we’ll change the stigmatism by opening up and so maybe have your significant other listen to this episode, too. (Jenn: Yeah) Well, thank you again. I can’t wait to chat with you more. And for all that you do. It’s just really incredible and amazing. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It.

Jenn Pike 36:32
Thank you.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast! One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram! I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of ‘As The Crows Fly Media’.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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