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Ep. 196 with Beate Chelette

“Hardships lead to activation and that’s the story you’re going to tell.”

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Bio

Beate Chelette is the Growth Architect and Founder of The Women’s Code and provides visionaries and leaders with strategies that grow your authority so that they can scale their impact. Beate bootstrapped her passion for photography into a global business and eventually sold it to Bill Gates in a multimillion-dollar deal.

Show Notes

It takes some grit and determination to get through life’s trials and come out on the other side. From bankruptcy to breakeven in three months, Beate Chelette is sharing the strategies that got her to the desired destination and beyond.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • The value in your strengths
  • What is “The reframing”?
  • The thin line between bankruptcy and breakeven
  • The reason why you can’t give up
  • The hardship leads to the triumph

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Transcript

INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan
Hey Be It babe, how are you? Okay, get ready, you’ll wanna get your notepad out like, I’m not kidding, you’ll want to get your notepad out, I want you to make sure that you are listening where you are, if you’re driving and you can’t even open it out, listen, but remember, like, make a mental note you’re going to re listen to this you can make, you can actually write these things down because my guest today, Beate Chelette, is unstoppable, incredible, is going to help you go from overwhelmed to awesome and, and I honestly, like, didn’t want to stop talking to her. I really hope to have her back in other capacities. That’s how phenomenal she is. And especially like, especially, ladies who are listening like you are going to love the tool she’s going to give you from her own experience in this world. And I am already like, thinking how I can practice them because it’s like, it’s, you’re gonna hear it, you’re gonna go yes, hold on, rewind, let me do that again. So without further ado because I just want you to get into this Beate Chelette is our guest and here she is.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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EPISODE

Lesley Logan
All right, be it babes. I have an incredible woman here for you today, she has done some amazing things like worth bragging about. So I’m sure we’ll get into it. But Beate Chelette, let is our guest today. It’s an incredible strategist, and has done some wonderful things in this world. So Beate can you tell everyone who you are and what you’re rocking at?

Beate Chelette
Yes, thank you so much for having me. I’m really excited to be here. And my name is Beate Chelette. I am known as the growth architect. And I work with visionaries and thought leaders, help them to grow their authority and scale their impact. And what that means is that I, I rock the piece that a lot of people don’t want to rock, which is everything is like, how do we do this? You know, the strategy? How do we build the systems, the workflows, the blueprints? How do I get from this point, you know, the red dot on the subway map that says you are here to your desired destination in a city you’ve never been in?

Lesley Logan
I so I love this so much because if you think about like, kind of like running a business, like the three main pillars, right, you’ve got like the visionary. You’ve got your ops and you’ve got your entrepreneur, the market or salesperson, so many people the visionary part is easy, but then they’re like how and that’s where you come in, you’re like, don’t worry. I can help you break that down. And to do like, is that something you always knew you’re going to do or like… Is that a long journey along the way that landed you here? How did that happen?

Beate Chelette
It’s interesting because I started out as a creative and I want you know, I have a photography degree. So that’s really my only degree that I have. And what I found is that was really easy for me to set up the systems and the processes, procedures, and then I became photo editor at Elle Magazine, and I’m like, well, this is this is this is easy. And so I over time realize that the stuff that other people couldn’t figure out, it just came natural to me where I was like, oh, yeah, like as if that’s a problem, all you have to do is like, follow these five steps. And then everyone says, How did you do that? I’m like, did what? And so I realized that I have a knack for, for taking complex and often daunting things, and breaking them down so people can understand it, and then follow it, and then implement it.

Lesley Logan
So I love that you, thank you for sharing this story because I think a lot of times people don’t often think they have a skill set that but they’re not recognizing that the things that come easy to them do not come easy to others. So here you are this accomplished photographer who happen to be really good at systems and just probably thought like everyone, this is just like normal. Like, it’s like what everyone can do. But really, no.

Beate Chelette
You are right, I think that is a really important thing to point out for your audience. Because a lot of times we are you know, there’s a there’s a, there’s a reason behind that. So you think about it, like when we go to school, our entire education system is set up that you go in, you learn existing information, if you can retain and regurgitate existing information, you get an A, and so you keep going through that your entire life. And then your teacher says, you are an amazing writer, and my gosh, you know, what you know about history is so beautiful. And I mean, you know, the whole history of the world is amazing. But you’re terrible in math. So sorry. But now I’m gonna terrorize you for the rest of your school education life with something you don’t like you’re don’t naturally good at, and I’m going to destroy your confidence and self esteem, that you cannot master something that’s completely not innate to your to your skill set. So when we go into our real life, right, we are entrepreneurs, we work in organizations we want to have a career, we have to so deeply ingrained in ourselves, Lesley, that when somebody says, gee, you know, you really, you really struggle with that, instead of then doing what I call, pull out your unapologetic value proposition. And when somebody says that to you what you should be doing, you should just laugh out loud. You say, Oh, my God, is it that obvious? Well, that’s why I’m so good at x and x and x and x. And that’s why I should be doing that. Because you know what, on our team, Lesley is so much better at this than I am. Let’s just agree to give it to her. So she can shine in that, and I can shine in my own.

Lesley Logan
Oh, my goodness, I’m so sorry to cut you off. But like, Y’all write that down! Because I think when when someone calls out what we already know we’re not good at because, as you said, it’s been ingrained in us, then we then we are like, oh my god, they saw it. And then we just shut down. But really, oh, oh, my god, isn’t that bad? Here? That’s probably what because I’m so good at these things. It’s like what a great way to like highlight your strengths. And also like, pat yourself on the back where like, it’s nobody should if you’re correct, the way that our education system is that you have been smart and all the things you can’t be at the top of the front row of the graduation thing unless you got an A in all of the classes, which just means you’re like, you know, no life and no creativity or just memorizing all the time.

Beate Chelette
Yes, I like that your pointed that because I think this is like the number one thing, especially for women, when they’re burning out is that this relentless pursuit of perfectionism of that somebody says, Yes, I got, I got this covered, I got this covered, I got this covered, but I’m not good at that. And then instead of saying, like, well, you know, I got these other nine things pretty much under control. It’s just this one thing, and I neither like it, nor enjoy it, nor do I feel it’s really necessary for me to do this other people that are better at that. Instead of saying, like, why terrorize myself with that. We go like, well, I must go and learn this thing that I really hate, because that’s what’s expected. And then I’m going to hate my life. And I am maybe gradually seeing some improvement. And then that becomes the thing. I think it’s ludicrous, literally. I mean, I that’s why the strategy I teach in the unapologetic value proposition and I kid you not, is I want you to put your head back and literally do this. Oh, god, thank you so much for pointing that out. Yeah. That’s why this is why I’m really good at, can we just agree that I’ll just go back to that and do that and let’s find somebody on the team who loves it, is good at it and gets it done faster and better than I can. Thank you so much for helping on this.

Lesley Logan
Oh, I mean, like, this is something you can use y’all in like your own personal life, like when you’re at your at your home, and there’s people coming over and they criticize your cooking and you already like don’t love cooking, like, I know, that’s why I brought you over, because you’re so good at it. You know, like, you can just go, that’s why you’re here. Here’s all the here’s all the things, let me know what you need, you know, instead of like going, Oh, my God, I need to get better at this. Like we can use it in all aspects of our life so that we can also celebrate what we are good at. Because if you’re so focused, like all I keep thinking as you’re talking is like how bad I was in math in school. And I literally changed my degree. So I didn’t have to take the statistics class, because I was like, there is no way I’m going to pass this class. And I’m not going to graduate. So I’m just going to change degrees, I can take the general math. Which, you know, like, it’s like crazy. Now, that I think about it. Like I literally changed all the degrees and the goals I had in life just so I could avoid this one math class because I was like, I’m not good at it. And I have to be good at it to get this degree. So what a interesting way we can all reframe, celebrate what we’re really good at and then allow others to step into their power at the same time. It’s like such a win win for everybody.

Beate Chelette
And I like the way you said that. And I use that word a lot. It’s called the reframing. And I take this one step further. And this is what another podcast host, you know, when I told him this, he called it that’s the CheckMate move. So I’m going to give you one more way to use this. So when you are in a situation where somebody, possibly a man, on a team is doing the regular thing on where they tried to take you out by saying something like, oh my god, you’re so emotional. And is there not one woman on this planet who has not heard this absolutely moronic, stupid sentence? Well, that’s a pretty emotional response you have, why are you always so emotional, you’re gonna do the exact same thing, you’re gonna put your head back, you’re gonna burst out and laughing at is as if it is the funniest thing you have ever heard in your entire life. Like, almost like you pee your pants funny. And then you say, Oh, my God, John. Good one. What I was saying, let’s get back to the presentation I was in right now. And you just wipe it off the table, you give it no energy. Because what women fall for a lot of these things are designed to make you feel stupid, because you take the bait. If you don’t take the bait, if you literally just laugh and ignore it, and you just look at them. Oh my God, John, you’re you’re an idiot. I mean, how can you even say something like that, you’re in 2023 is like, wow, wow, like, wow, John, right? But nice diversion attempt. But here’s what we really talking about right now. Right? And then there is no coming back from something like this. So this is really a strategy I teach in my unapologetic value proposition. For that reason I see women, you know, not just women, you know, obviously, you know, this happens to everybody, that it shows a perceived weakness, or gives an opening to somebody who is was a bully, or finds it compelling to take other people down. So it happens all the time. But you gotta put a poker face on, and you’re just gonna laugh, and you’re just gonna shake your head. And you said, seriously, dude, and you just move on.

Lesley Logan
That is. So I love this. And if you’re listening, I hope you wrote it down. And you’re also going to make time to practice it. Because I think the more you kind of like just practice it in in easy ways, practice it in front of a mirror, like picture yourself in that meeting with that person who know who’s gonna say these things, and just get yourself ready for it so that it feels like an old muscle. I love it. You’re correct, that it’s a checkmate move. It’s also just like, What a great way to like make everyone else in the room who already feels uncomfortable because John said that and they’re looking at you at your response, because they, they’re trying to figure out how to respond. They might have that like laughter that’s uncomfortable or whatever. And then they see you just like, own it and slay back without actually having to make it a big deal in any other way just becomes a big deal for them. What a cool way to show your strength and power in your own space. And people are gonna be like, oh, I want to be on that person’s team because they they don’t fall for this crap.

Beate Chelette
And that’s the key. It’s a technique that they’re using. You take the bait, it’s on you. If you don’t take the bait, it’s on them. Yeah!

Lesley Logan
Yeah. Oh, yes. Okay. So Beate you have had like an incredible career. You, you are doing this growth architecture now. Before that though, like what like what led you into this? Like what was the bridge from like photographer, Elle, rocking all this scene like, wow systems are easier for me than others. What what was the next stage in this? Because I feel like you’ve had some incredible an incredible journey that allowed you to be in this place to teach us all this stuff.

Beate Chelette
Yeah, so my journey is very much like the journey of many women that I know. I mean, I just felt I didn’t fit in. And I was very hard for me because I wasn’t the smartest in the room. I wasn’t the most sophisticated. And I, I just felt that none of this that none of this, like, standard stuff apply. Right? I always felt like I was out of place. And I was always drawn to creativity. And so I became a photographer, immigrated to the United States. And then I had what I call a, you know, 13 year period of time of just absolute brutal adversity. You know, I got pregnant, I married a man was an alcoholic and a pathological liar. And then I’m going through a divorce while there’s a recession, I get laid off, I have to figure out how to run my own business. And I’m, you know, I’m an immigrant. I’m a single mom now. And I have to figure out how do I get my business together after I’ve never run a business before? How do I feed my child? How do I survive in a city like Los Angeles, which is, which is a tough place to be to begin with. And so I went through fires, floods, riots, earthquakes, a lawsuit, a tsunami, September 11, I had major life events wiped out. Pieces of my business, September 11, wiped out my production business in one day, I lost a half a million dollars. And the hits just kept coming and coming and coming until at the very crowning end, my, my father dies. And while I’m at the funeral, my office in Los Angeles calls me and says, My, we’ve been served a notice here in Los Angeles. So now I lost the house. I didn’t own the house, but you know, got the notice. And I have to figure out with $135,000 in debt, how in the world am I going to pay for this funeral? Figure out where am I going to move my office to on money I don’t have, with business I don’t have, with this huge mountain of debt. And that is when things started to turn in my favor.

Lesley Logan
Ooh, I mean, first of all, like, I feel like some of the things you just mentioned, while I’m not did not lose half a million dollars in one day, but like, I feel like people can take themselves back when Oh, yeah, like I’ve been hit to, like they can understand like, that was, especially if you were running your own business. That’s all on your small business owner. It’s hard to recover from one of those things, let alone all of those things. So what was the turning point?

Beate Chelette
So the turning point was, and I think this is a really good message to to make sure that everybody who is on this podcast is hearing: is you still got to do the work. So I did write the business plan. And I did, I did put it out there. My former mother in law would keep telling me to write a letter to the President of the United States. And she kept on saying he’s your president, why don’t you write a letter to the President of the United States? If anybody can help you, it’s got to be the President of the United States. You don’t get any higher up than that. I mean, he rules the whole country. And she just would not be quiet about it. I swear. I mean, that comes upon. I’m gonna write the damn letter, just so you can.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, yeah, just so I can just say I did it. And like, you know, we’re all thinking like, yeah, the President’s gonna really respond.

Beate Chelette
Right. But then when I come back from Germany, I get a letter from the White House.

Lesley Logan
Oh, stop it.

Beate Chelette
And it says the president sends you his best wishes? No.

Lesley Logan
That’s the best. That’s even better than a bit of what I would imagine. They could have written like, I love it’s like, good luck.

Beate Chelette
And you go and you go, like, okay, clearly the president never saw this letter. I mean, let’s not let’s not be deluded about that. But what it did do is that, that the intern that was working at the White House in the mailroom, opening these 1000s of desperate letters from desperate people like me, you know, wrote me back saying the President is delighted to hear from you and sends you his best wishes. Here is the info to the Small Business Administration in Los Angeles, and then they send a letter to the SBA, and the SBA, the Small Business Administration is a government institution that helps small business owners specifically with funding and education to run their businesses. And so that put me in the seat next to Lorenza Flores, the Deputy Chief Director, so not some lower level, but the second in command at the SBA. And so I walked in with my business plan I had written, I and my portfolio. And I sat down and I said: I’m in trouble. And they helped me restructure my business plan. And then they found me a bank that took my $135,000 in debt, and restructured that into a 10 year fixed loan. And that freed up my line of credit, that brought me to break even, that was three months, Lesley, this is how close it is sometimes between bankruptcy and break even it was three months. Wow. And then I became 18 months later, the world leader in my category, and then a Bill Gates company comes and says, How do you do that? And I said, I’m not going to tell you because if you want it, you’re going to have to buy it. And they say, How much do you want? I said, I want a couple million, they said fine. And so that’s how I ended up selling my business to Bill Gates.

Lesley Logan
This is, This is insane. There’s so much, what I love here is I mean, like crazy ex mother in law. Brilliant in some ways. It’s always like, I’m okay, I guess I’m gonna write that. But like, nothing happened, like that happened for you. And like got you have this really great meeting. But so many people would have quit at that. I’m in debt. It’s over. I’m not good enough for this. And they would just quit. And instead you’re like, I’m just gonna, I’m gonna try this next thing, I’m gonna try this next thing and that perseverance and that consistency, and then you owning your worth, like, people always ask, How do you do this? And it’s like, you have to pay for it. Like, people hate that. But it’s like coaching, right? Like, if you want to be coached by myself, I’m sure with what you do. It’s like, you want to know how he does it? You have to pay for, one why? A because I work my ass off to know all this stuff and I want to share with you. B there is something that is more valued when it is paid attention to and in some sort of currency. So I think that’s really cool. In three months from that debt to break even, and also by restructuring that loan, it probably freed up your brain to think about the possibilities rather than like the current circumstances.

Beate Chelette
Yes. And what what really factors into it, so, so you alluded to, like one of the important questions here is like, why not give up at that point? And that point, you would say, Okay, I mean, $135,000, the woman’s been through enough, nobody would have even blinked to the eye and said, yeah, no, sorry, this, you had to go through all of that. That’s just too much for anybody to carry. But I had a mantra, and my mantra was, literally, I couldn’t fathom that at after all of this, the joke was going to be on me, like I could just like literally, I couldn’t formulate that thought that just made no sense. There was no logic behind that. And the second thing was: is I will not drown in a puddle. Hmm. Is this big enough to fail?

Lesley Logan
That is, ah, I that is I will not drown in a puddle. I mean, it makes me what like, Y’all, if you’re listening, like as you’re listening, it’s like, think of the times that you’ve kind of even let a puddle start to take you down. You know, we like sometimes like, it’s like, makes me think like, don’t sweat the small stuff. Do you notice? Like, that’s like, because it’s like, we started to make things that are, they seem really big. But if you can get a step back, and you can, like, look at the whole picture, it’s like actually, it’s like this big, it’s this big in all of that. That is incredibly, an incredible strength that you were able to do that. And also that you already had that mantra going into it, I think really helped you and and like benefits us for listening to this.

Beate Chelette
Yes. And, you know, I know that people that are listening to your show, by the way, if you’re listening, make sure that you go and subscribe to the podcast wherever you get it and leave Lesley a five star review. And even a comment that because that helps with the ranking that helps to reach more people and take like one thing that you’ve learned in this or any other episode and share that and maybe share that podcast with one other person. Having said that, you know, it is really critical that you recognize that when you go out there and you will have hardship and you are overcoming and you’re trying to be free you know getting from overwhelmed to awesome, you know, that’s what I wrote my book about Happy Woman Happy World is that you give yourself a time limit on when you are allowed to, to, you know, to drown yourself in sorrow. But I was very diligent. I’ve worried about money twice a month when I had to pay bills, and then I literally shut it down. Because I could not be a mom, a single parent, raise my kid, try to, you know, get business with that in my head all the time. So the drowning in a puddle is, is also the the backbone, not the wishbone, the backbone that you must build to say, obviously, there’s something larger at work and you will relate to this. I always believe that people that I work with have been activated. Only somebody who has been activated even knows what that means. And the activation isn’t presented to you on a velvet cushion.

Lesley Logan
No, no, I feel like I feel like you get activated because you went through the hardship and you kept going, you know, you get going and you can realize and go wow, look at I just look at I look at I were able to do, you know, Oh, brilliant.

Beate Chelette
Yeah. So if you if you are going through hardship, congratulations. Because that means you’ve been activated. And that means that you are now creating the story that you’re here to tell. And the experience you’re here to share. And the overcoming, you might be teaching.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, yeah, I am. I called up a like a business mentor of mine over the holiday. And I was telling him what I was going through and his response was, and I was like, distraught. Right? And his response was, congratulations, you’ve made it. Like, I started laughing. I was like, that’s, that’s what the help you’re gonna get. That’s not what I was looking for. I was looking for the answer. He gave me a couple of questions. And I was like, I and of course, when we hung up, I was like, that’s exactly what I needed. But it’s so it’s so funny. In the moment, when you’re just like, you’re like feeling it, and you’re like, I just want someone to say it’s gonna be okay. They’re like, they just laugh a little bit at you, because it’s like, welcome to the party of working for yourself. And you get to go through this so that you can actually come out the other side with this experience of how you’re gonna handle these kinds of situations and have this muscle. And I think we all want the hardship to not be there. And if you’re a parent, you definitely don’t want your kids to have any hardship. And the problem with that is, you don’t get activated, you don’t get these muscles and you don’t get this competence. You can go through these things. If you had not gone through it, you’re going through, I can’t imagine you would have had this muscle to look at someone coming from a Bill Gates company and saying, You can have it if you pay for it. Like you know what I mean? Like that competence. And that response comes from someone who, like, worked through all this stuff and like realizes what they’re sitting on.

Beate Chelette
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. And if I were to tell you that I, you know, that at the time, that it would take 13 years of brutal hardship, to then become a multimillionaire, and I would, you know, let’s say we ask your audience and say, do you think 13 years of hardship is, is okay, to not ever having to worry about for the rest of your life about money? Do you think that would be okay? And then everybody would say, yeah, man, I’m gonna, I’ll take that I’ll do 13 years if I, if that means that I never have to worry about money again. Of course I will. But when you’re in it, you don’t know it.

Lesley Logan
Mm hmm. Yeah, I think that makes me think. I love that. That makes me think of like, you know, Michelle Obama mentioned, like, because they’ve been married for like, so many decades. And she said, Yeah, we had like, nine hard years, and that somebody, like, nailed on that. And she’s like, if you could be promised that you’ll have 30 plus years of marriage, and nine of them will be a little bit hard, like, wouldn’t you take when to take that bet? You know what I mean? I think we tend to just focus only on this, like, this is where we’re at right now, as opposed to like, really go in the big picture. If I could know that I’m gonna like not have to worry about that ever again. I have everything I want. What I definitely take the bet of 13 hardship years. Heck, yeah. Because your lifetime is so much longer. So much longer. Oh my gosh, Beate, I feel like we could continue talking because you’re such an inspiration and you have so many great points. Y’all are going to save this episode. For sure. And re listen because I know I can’t wait to re listen to all of these things and write them down. We’re gonna take a brief break and they’ll find out where people can find you follow you work with you read your book. Alright, Beate, Where do you like to hang out? Where can people get to have like hear more of your amazing words?

Beate Chelette
Yeah, so I mean, if you undergoing you know some of the stuff we talked about, get the book Happy Woman Happy World. You’ll find it on Amazon. Available as an audio book, as an e book, and as an actual printed book. Reach out to me, I’m all over or social media either as the growth architect or Beate Chelette. I like to hear from the audience. I like to hear what you’re taking away, because that is our lifeblood. That’s our thing. That’s how we keep how we keep going. If you heard something and you said, you know, I need to speak to this woman, I need a strategy from her. Just reach out, go to my website, beatechelette.com Fill out the uncovering session, or just contact me and I’ll be happy to see how I can help you.

Lesley Logan
I love that. All right, so before I let you go, you’ve already given us so many like gems that we need to keep with us but any bold executable intrinsic target action steps people can use to be it till they see it.

Beate Chelette
Yes, you are from here on now prohibited to take failure personal. I want you to look at failure as a as a nice gentleman in a construction outfit with a neon neon stripe on it that stands out with a stop sign, the road that you want to take is a cul de sac and you’re not going to be able to get through so you’re not going out of the car, you’re not throwing yourself on the ground, you’re not throwing a temper tantrum that somebody is not going to let you get where you want to go. You’re just going to go and thank him, you turn around and you find another way that’s how you will be looking from at failure from here on out.

Lesley Logan
Oh, oh my gosh, that’s so good. I’m like, I like can’t wait for Brad to listen and we’ll do a recap episode we’ll talk about it because like now I can just say ah goodness, the construction man’s here we’re in a cul de sac let’s turn around, like you know what I mean? Like when you have that lingo? It you’ll I promise you if you haven’t started having lingo like that when you have lingo like that it really does help you snap out of these like woe is me moments that we that we all tend to want to have but they don’t get us anywhere they’re not gonna get you through the cul de sac.

Beate Chelette
no, it’s like what what’s the language going to do? I’m such an idiot, I can’t believe I took this road not to cul de sac on never get out of here. I’ll never find another way I’ll never drive my car again. I’ll never leave my house again because I’m such a failure that I found this cul de doesn’t even make any sense.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, no, it really doesn’t it really doesn’t and it’s so good to hear it when you’re not in it because you can like you can actually hear how it like silly that sounds and so then when you go through it like I’m being a little ridiculous right now thank you Mr. Construction person with your neon sign. I appreciate appreciate the waving of the flag turned around. Oh my gosh, Beate thank you so much for all your awesomeness and what you’re doing in this world for people. It’s so wonderful. Y’all How are you going to use these tips in your life tag Beate a tag the be at pod we want to know share this with a friend and especially share it with your lady friends because if we could all start laughing, especially at people who are trying to tear us down and like brush it off. So we put it back on them the world is going to be a much better place. So Beate, thank you for that. And until next time everyone be it till you see it.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over on IG at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
Be It Till You See It is a production of Bloom Podcast Network.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan. And me Brad Crowell. Our associate producer is Amanda Frattarelli.

Lesley Logan
Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.

Brad Crowell
Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.

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