INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan 0:00
Hey, Be It Till You See It listener. Welcome to the show. What’s up? What’s up? Okay. Wow, this is a really fun episode. I actually really enjoyed… I was smiling the whole time like I couldn’t stop smiling. She is so much joy and you’re gonna hear her introduce herself like, oh yeah, you can picture how much joy she is. This is one of those divine appointments, those divine moments of meeting someone because actually, I was randomly in New York in the fall, I got to see Clare Solly you remember her from one of our episodes in the beginning? She’s my slingshot friend. And I said, “Yeah, I need some more guests. I need some more unique guests that like really are gonna inspire people because I, I think like we need to hear more stories.” When you hear more stories of possibility. And we hear more from more people who are still in the works of it. And she’s like, “Oh, you got to talk to Brittaney Delsarté.” And I was like, “Perfect, great, do the introduction.” And not only that, we get the intro happening within like five minutes of her saying her name, but she’d already scheduled her up and I was like, “I love it. She’s a take action person. I’m in.” We are recording this during Retrograde. So you’re gonna hear some little Retrograde Gremlins taking over her internet. But I the the interview is so good. That just no like it’s a word here and there. It’s not it’s a whole sentence not going to drive your ears crazy. And she has so much love, joy, positivity, and drive. And if you are someone who’s like, “I wish I had an ounce of that.” I want you to listen because she shares her tips along the way. She shares how she makes it happen. And I really just loved her actions items at the end. They’re so honest. And they show so much possibility and they’re really like, the this journey we’re all on is not linear. Y’all, it is not. And we talk a lot about that in this interview as well. So here’s the deal, you are amazing. And I know you’re scared. And I know sometimes you don’t know what the next step is. But if you can just get freakin’ clear on what you’re wanting to be in this world. Who you are, it’s gonna happen, you’re gonna look back and go, “Whoa, look at that,” you know. So so I really I really I know, it’s I know, it’s not easy. I know that every day, there’s something weird that happens. I swear. Like, one day, we got a link that was working and in the next day it’s not and I’m like, “Why is this happening still?” You know, or one day everything is going really great in some relationships. And the next day, there’s an argument and you’re like, “What, how did that happen?” And it can be distracting and you can go these things just keep popping up, life keeps getting in the way. And I think it’s important that you know, that’s all part of the journey you’re going on. And it’s all part of what makes you “you” and it’s what makes you actually stand out and this makes people feel comfortable talking to you and sharing their story with you and and supporting you. You know, we always say it here and nobody wants to be friends with perfect. So stop trying to be perfect. Allow it to be messy. And, and and wear, wear some sunshine, find out your power color is, you’re gonna hear about Brittaney’s in this episode. So I’m going to stop talking so you can hear the words from her. Thank you for being here. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing every episode. It really does make a huge differnce. I’m on a mission, okay and I can’t do it alone. And that that means you, means you sharing each episode that you love that brings something to you that teaches you something. If you could text it or post it on Instagram or share it wherever you love to hang out that is going to help other people hear this podcast. So here you go after this brief message, Brittaney Delsarté.

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Lesley Logan 3:34
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and business fitness coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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EPISODE

Lesley Logan 4:19
All right, Be It babes. Oh my goodness. I have someone so special for you. She came to me by way of a very special woman. We’ll talk about her in a second but we’ve got Brittaney Delsarté and aahhh she is such a bright light and such a joy in her smile… I get to see her smile. If you’re watching on YouTube, you get to see her smile. It’s just making me have a better day, already. So Brittaney, thank you so much for being on the Be It Till You See It podcast. Can you tell everyone, who you are and what you’re up to these days?

Brittaney Chatman 4:45
I, well, thank you so much for having me. First of all, I wore yellow especially for you. Yellow is my energy color. So I’m giving you the the awesome blossom color. All glow energy of life today. (Brittaney laughs)

Lesley Logan 5:00
You are, you’re such a sunshine. (Lesley and Brittaney laughs)

Brittaney Chatman 5:02
I try, I try. I mean and we’re also in the middle of Mercury Retrograde. So I just feel like everybody just needs some some light, some positive vibration, so I’m here to bring it. Hi everyone, I’m Brittany Delsarté. Awesome blossom, fabulous and fantastic. It’s my brand. I’m an artist and multi hyphenate person. I’m producer, I used to be a journalist, you know, just exuding black girl magic.

Lesley Logan 5:30
Ooh, (Lesley laughs) you are, you are. And oh my goodness, I know. While we’re recording this, it is Mercury Retrograde. It’s like, “Come on,” but also the podcast interviews never stop, you have to do (Lesley laughs) whatever’s happening. So, so okay, you called yourself “awesome blossom” all these things? When did, when did you become this? You were in, you’re used to be a journalist and now you’re doing music. So like, what was the journey? Can you take us down the road?

Brittaney Chatman 5:55
Yes. So awesome blossom started, I was in a pageant when I was in middle school. And the person asked me to describe myself using four words. And off the top of my head. I was like, “awesome blossom, fabulous and fantastic.” And ever since then, it just stuck with me. But of course, you know, with throughout my life trajectory so far and when I reflect back on, you know, just being that that bright eyed, bushy tailed kid with pigtails and glitter in my hair. Just dreaming of being an artist and just being this multi hyphenate person and see where I am now, I realized that that that name Awesome Blossom, it has a different meaning for me now, because I’m just with in my life, I’ve I’ve experienced highs and lows. Right? But it’s always, I’ve always found it fascinating how I’ve been able to hold resilient through all of the things that I’ve gone through, and still been able to just set my dreams to fruition. And to do it with excellence and to do it really well. Even though I’ve, I’ve hit a lot of obstacles and a lot of you know, curveballs have come my way. So when people say, “awesome blossom,” I’m like, “Yeah, like it is because I’m able to do all of these awesome, amazing things. And yet, I’m still learning. I’m still growing. I’m still evolving. So, I’m still blossoming,” (Lesley: Oh) you know. Yes.

Lesley Logan 7:24
I have so much, I’m like, I’m like, I’m like loving it because first of all, we all have the obstacles, right? Like, it’s just a nature of the game. And I think sometimes, some of us can like rise through those obstacles. And sometimes we let those obstacles get us and it just depends on you know, what you’ve been through and what you’ve said resiliency, and I want to say like, when you say awesome blossom, it almost helps you like even if you’re like hit an obstacle, it’s like, “I’m awesome blossom.” You can’t, you can’t not go to the next thing. Right?

Brittaney Chatman 7:53
Yeah, exactly. And that’s what it’s about, it’s about, you know, taking your power back, and realizing that, you know, if you, if you know your life’s purpose, and you know what you’re supposed to do, you cannot afford to just stay in this tight bud. Like it that is almost too painful than it is to go out and just take a chance on yourself. And whatever it is that you want to achieve, you know, so you can do it. I mean, awesome blossom, fabulous and fantastic. Have that confidence and know that you will get from point A to point B, if you just keep working at it.

Lesley Logan 8:23
Yeah, you’re… yeah, I’m like, I feel like everyone’s gonna start going around, “Awesome blossom, fabulous and fantastic.” It’s like a little new mantra, we can all say. And I you know, I have to just point out she said, like, you can’t, we also survive, we can’t stay that way. It’s actually really painful to stay that way. You know, what are like, can you think of a time where like, maybe you were letting yourself stay in your bud shape? And like you you finally got through the blossoming part. Like is there any point in your journey that you kind of just felt a little nervous? Because it is hard and scary to go up against the obstacles.

Brittaney Chatman 8:53
Yeah, absolutely. Um, I want to say I’ve always been someone that has never, I’ve always been fearless. And, I give credit to my family for that, they always nourished my dreams. Anything I want to do if I said, “I could believe, I could fly.” They’d be like, “Okay, girl, we know you can. And how high do you want to fly?” You know what I mean? (Brittaney laughs) So when I moved to New York, I actually left my career as a journalist. I was in news broadcasting, and actually got my startup at CNN, at 21. (Lesley: That’s insane.) So that was my first… Yeah, it was …

Lesley Logan 9:30
Go big or go home. It’s like, that would be the scariest place to start being a journalist is like, at the like, pinnacle of like, where everyone wants to probably be as a journalist.

Brittaney Chatman 9:39
… pinnacle. Exactly and that’s where I got my start, that’s where I learned. And I had just graduated from college, University of South Carolina. And I was like, “Okay, but why am I not taking these full time positions?” Because deep down inside, I knew I wanted to go to New York and you know, achieve my dreams and see where I can, what I can do with my art and so I got into grad school moved to New York, and 2018 I graduated and I found myself. Billy Porter said it perfectly. It, he called it being an a… “In the Precipice of Obscurity.” And I felt myself being in that place where it’s like, alright, you know where you want to go, but you still, but you can no longer see the road ahead of you. I’m someone that’s a futuristic thinker, I can visualize something futuristic and see the outcome. And it may not come into fruition until months or years later. But it got, it came to a point where I was like, “I’m not sure what direction I’m supposed to go in.” And I think it’s because I might have experienced postgraduate depression, where you graduate, and then you see other people have started getting married, (Lesley: Yeah) and having families and yet you’re still trying to break into such an industry that’s tough. Like, you know, there’s so many people that want to pursue acting and, and singing and, you know, not everyone makes it. And that’s just, you know, that’s just me being realistic. And it got to a point where I felt like I was relying more on my, you know, my degree because then I went into marketing and advertising just to survive in New York, because it’s expensive here. (Brittaney laughs) So (Lesley: Yeah) you know, I got to a point where I was just like, “You know what, like, it… What if I never, what if I’m never able to leave this? What if I’m always going to be here? And the reason why I came to New York is in vain?” So I, I became fearful, it got scary. But music was the thing that healed me and brought that life and vitality back to me. I felt like I just needed to uplift myself, I recorded my little rap song “Call Me Blossom.” It was not meant to be taken seriously at all. But all of these people started coming in the studio. And they were like, “What is this song? But I can hear this on the radio, like, this puts me in such a good mood, like, I love this song. I can’t get it out my head. It’s so catchy.” And from there, I was just like, “You know what, like, I really enjoy the process of making the song. And it was healing for me.” So I just decided to keep going. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) And it really it was the music that sustained me and brought me back because being in New York, I don’t have family here. And, you know, I I felt like I was I didn’t know what I was gonna do. I was like, “Please give me the courage. Let me just figure out what I needed to do to reset.” And I think like creating this album, like put me in a place of like, “Oh, now I remember why I’m here. Now I know what to do. (Lesley: Well…) Now I know how to get back to me.”

Lesley Logan 12:38
I mean, I just want to so y’all, Brittaney and I were introduced … Clare Solly, who is my slingshot friend. We are each other’s slingshot friends and she moved to New York. And it’s true, like it gets really, it’s like LA, it’s everybody’s there with a dream. And it really is those who like keep at it. It’s it’s it’s not as you can be the most talented. And if you burn out, if you give yourself only six months, you’ll you know, like it’s just like, it’s just time being there consistently and showing up. And I love what you said about Billy Porter’s like, “In the Precipice of Obscurity.” It’s like, it’s it is really hard to be there because it’s such an uncertain place. And it’s, and it’s you don’t know the road ahead, but you you like have an idea where you want to go and so I freakin’ love that. You know, what you just said. How, as you were describing that what I, what I heard is like, you’d be you said, “I came really fearful,” and you were a fearless person and then you started taking some action. I always say like that “action is the antidote to fear” that when you take some action and so here you are not a singer yet, not doing those things you went to school for and having what I think Christine Hassler calls it like “Expectation Hangover,” like having graduated (Brittaney: Yes) is amazing thing you should be so proud of, and anybody else back home be like, “I’m so proud of her.” And you’re in this place of like, “I’m lost. I don’t know. I’m gonna just go back and do these things, because I need to make some money.” But when you took this action of going down and making the song, whatever it was, like, the fact that you were like, “I don’t even, it’s just, I’m just gonna go have some fun. I’m not even gonna, I’m just gonna do this thing.” I think that’s where the magic happens because I every time I hear someone stories, I hear the fear. And then I hear action was taken, and then something blossomed from it.

Brittaney Chatman 14:18
It’s true. And the beautiful thing about being an artist and the beautiful thing that I just admire about all artists is that, you know, underneath this, this strong or fearless exterior that a lot of artists have is a lot of vulnerability. And sometimes we use that to serve other people. We want other people to come and get a cathartic experience from us that we don’t use a lot of that power for ourselves. (Lesley: Hmm) So for me to go into the studio and to actually write the songs and compose the music and to arrange and to really use a lot of those gifts for me, and it wasn’t about like, “Oh, like how many impressions can I get? How many streams I could get?” It wasn’t about that it was just about the experience itself. And just writing and really seeing how, you know, the way that I think, the way that I feel, the things that I want in life. How it’s changed. How it’s evolved. And how I can really pull myself together again with my gift, to, in order to empower myself to get back to that relentless pursuit of excellence, “Girl, you’ve got this. Trust your gut. It’s magical,” you’ll always put yourself in a position to blossom that way, if you just trust your instincts, and allow your, your gifts to nurture you sometimes. So …

Lesley Logan 15:37
I think that’s such (Brittaney: Yeah) a great call to action. And I what, what I was thinking about as you’re saying, that is, there’s gonna be someone listening is going “Okay, but thanks, ladies, I don’t, I don’t actually want to be a professional singer.” And what you’re saying is like, it’s not about making the money on that gift. It’s about using the gifts to fulfill you first. And I like, I think, you know, you said it, like we do things that other people have an experience. We’re doing all these things to make sure that other people feel good, that other people are taking care of. And so little are we doing things to like, make sure we’re fulfilled, that we’re our, our cup is filled and so I really think this is very beautiful. Can you tell me, so you’re you’re rapping apparently. (Lesley laughs) I’m in the (Brittaney: Yeah) presence of a rapper. (Lesley laughs) So okay, where I’m with your music, because that’s what you’re doing now? Are you, are you, are you showing up into different like places to sing, open mic nights? Are you being invited? Like where are we at on this journey? Like, what’s the next step? Are we, are you just kind of like seeing what happens? You’re being famous and fantastic and see what lands in your place?

Brittaney Chatman 16:40
Yeah, so you know, I’m a Virgo. So there’s always going to be a strategy in place. The way that my brain works like, there, there’s a method to the madness. So last August, I actually dropped the EP, it’s called “Call Me Blossom.” So just five songs, just to you know, give people an introduction about me and who I am and not only hasn’t given me a artistic rebirth, but for me, I want people to understand where I come from, because yes, I moved to New York, but I’m a Southern girl. So the songs are, are about just my southern roots and my upbringing. Umm, what, you know, my 90s childhood, you can tell that a lot of when you listen to my music, a lot of the the sounds that drift between R&B and jazz and hip hop and dance pop are a lot of like, 90s inspired. Right? And just my poetry. So when I released that in August, I released the music video for the first single, which was Southern Life. And the video did really well it got about 65k views. I just (Lesley: That’s amazing.) before… Yeah, thank you. So, so before Christmas, I actually went and shot the music video for my second song, which will be called “Talk to Me.” And it’s going to drop in February. And I thought it would be very fitting because you know, the song is about love. And it’s just about when you finally meet someone, but they don’t really want to articulate what they will bring to a relationship because they don’t know if they actually really want something long term and sustainable. My song is saying, “Ah ah no. Before you get with me, before I make any commitments to be in the relationship, you’re going to have to articulate to me what you’re, what you’re willing to offer me. Because if I can do that for you, then you need to do that for me.” So with that said, with that job, I am planning to do something really special because we’re still in a pandemic and I’m still nervous to perform live. So I am going to do a virtual concert. This will be my first one. Um, I’m in the works of producing that with my team (Lesley: So good) and they will… Yeah. And then we’ll see what happens but there’s definitely a plan and that’s how I do it. Like I just allowed myself to have small goals. So the first goal was just, “Alright, like release the EP, get it out. Alright, now let’s release the music videos. Alright, once that’s released, alright, let’s do a live concert so people can enjoy your your music live and get that experience (Lesley: Yeah) from you.” And then the next level is, “Alright, like, let’s get these deals. Let’s see what, let’s pitch. You know, let have (Lesley: Well…) the material, show them what you got.”

Lesley Logan 19:15
Thank you for sharing that because I do think people think, “Oh, you release an album you get a deal.” And when I can’t wait for Brad to listen to this episode because he it wasn’t, when I met him he was in a band, he was in a pop band. (Brittaney: Yeah) (Lesley laughs) And and, you know, so I have seen like the behind the scenes on that and it’s it’s it’s hard y’all, but what I love how you broke that down because even if you’re not like here, listening to this to release an album y’all, like listening to her. She’s like, “Okay, I’m just gonna do this small goal. And then I’m gonna do this small goal.” And that (Brittaney: Yeah) really does help boost your confidence because if you look at the whole big picture, get get on stage, book a deal, get an album out there, get representation, it can feel like impossible and also hard to see how far you’ve come? Because until you hit that goal, you’ve achieved anything, but you’re like, “Nope, I’m gonna just write a song. And then I’m gonna record a song.”

Brittaney Chatman 20:09
Exactly. And you know, the beautiful thing about being a multi hyphenate person is that I was really able to take all of the skills that I’ve learned and developed over time. I always tell people, the beauty of being a multi hyphenate is that one domain and seizes the other. So I really took my time to say, okay, like, well, I don’t have to hire people to market for me or to help me create my brand because as a marketing advertising person, that’s what I do on my own. I have a communications degree, I know how to write so I can I know how to pitch myself. I can do my own EPK’s. I can do my own social media marketing campaigns. You know, like, I can create creative, direct my own music videos. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) I can executive produce my own projects. So I really took all of the things that I’ve learned over time, and really invested into bringing this project to life. So I really took my time with it.

Lesley Logan 21:05
So for the, for the listener, who is like, “What is a multi hyphenate?” They might be thinking like three last names. So can you, can you share, like, what that is? Because I actually, what I’m loving is that you basically wrote down like, “Here all the skill sets I have.” But can you just, can you just break it down (Lesley laughs) for the person who might not know if they are one or not?

Brittaney Chatman 21:25
Yeah, you know, and I’m still trying to figure out how to, like, break that down. But I always tell people, like I consider myself to be like a millennial renaissance woman. Because being a multi hyphenate just means that you know, you, you don’t just settle for one, one career (Lesley: Mm-hmm) industry or one career field that you can jump between multiple industries. So (Lesley: Yeah) for instance, like, yeah, like I, I am an actress, I am artist, but I was also in the journalism field as a reporter, (Lesley: Mm-hmm) and as a news producer. But then when I graduated, I went into marketing and advertising. So it’s just being able to, (Lesley: Yeah) balance multiple careers at one time.

Lesley Logan 22:08
Yeah. Well, and also, it’s like, the beautiful thing about that is you don’t have to like just be one thing. And I think back, it sounds like we’re about the same age. I’m an elder millennial, though. (Lesley and Brittaney laughs) Yeah, well, it’s… (Brittaney: Where? Where? Why?) Y’all, my birthday is, in two days from this. I’m very… I don’t know, when you’re listening to it. It’s been, it’s been passed, but you can wish me happy birthday. But, um, yeah, no, Brad and I are elder millennials. And I have a funny story about about that. But at any rate, I think like, you know, my mom is a teacher, my dad was a manager. Like to, like, you know, back in the day, you had like a title. And now because, like, because of the way the world works, because at how things industries change, because we’re allowed to go, “Hey, I only have to work here for four years.” You can experience all these different things, and some people would see that as, “Oh, my God, look at me, I just keep switching jobs,” and see it as a negative thing. And instead by saying, “I’m multi hyphenate.” (Brittaney: Yeah) You’re like basically to me, you’re like owning all the experiences and show, and using the tools from that to help prepare your career forward. And I think that’s really cool. I think if we all stop beating ourselves up for like, changing jobs so much and actually saw it as like, nope, the stepping stones are all going to equal up to like having this handbag of awesome, awesome tools you can use (Brittaney: Yeah) as you need. Right? I think that’s really (Brittaney: Yeah) fun. Yeah, no, (Brittaney: Yeah) I was at okay, so I was (it was, gosh when was this?) probably like 20, I don’t know, 14 15. I was in this like at this cafe in Montecito, California. Y’all, it’s like a tinier town from Santa Barbara. (Brittaney: Oh, wow.) It’s like we’re Oprah’s houses and like Prince Harry. It’s like this specific town. Right? So I’m at this the only brunch spot and I’m sitting there working on my computer. And this guy looks over and I mean, like I definitely dress like a kid from the 90s still like you know like I’m an elder millennial. So he looks at me goes, “Are you a millennial?” And I said, “Yeah. I am.” He’s like, “I knew, I knew you people worked.” (Lesley laughs) Like we work a lot. Millennials work a lot. (Lesley laughs)

Brittaney Chatman 24:13
You know what they’re just mad because the week we’re at this point in our lives where we’re not just gonna stay on some job and be miserable just because it we make good money, okay? You’ll be lucky if we turn into two weeks notice. This is a lot worse and we just know that rest is revolutionary that’s all … (Lesley: Oh, my God.) We just learned from the baby boomers and said, “No, we’re gonna just do it. We just got to switch it up so that you know we can have more fulfilling lives.” No, you know no shade to the baby boomers but you know.

Lesley Logan 24:42
Yeah, but I think (Brittaney: It’s evolved over time.) I I love it. Rest is revolutionary. Oh my God, and he’s going to wall but you’re, (Brittaney: Yeah) I mean, I think like, I think it is we get to learn from the people who came before us and that is the best thing we can, the best owed to them that we could do is go, “You know, that doesn’t look so fun. Didn’t look like you’re all a bunch of happy people.” (Lesley laughs) You know

Brittaney Chatman 25:02
Exactly. (Lesley: Yeah) Exactly.

Lesley Logan 25:04
So but I just think it is, I love what you’re saying. I think if you’re listening to this, it’s like, look back and write down all of the best skill sets that you had from every job. I used to be a barista, you know what I was really good at getting people to do? “Put whip cream on that.” Like, I was like, “It’s only two calories, you can do it. (Lesley laughs) “Enjoy, (Brittaney: Exactly) have some fun in life.” But I was a barista. And then I worked at a doctor’s office and I then I worked in the mall, and I had, like, all those things lead you up, and they give you some experience that allows you to see the world from a different place. And that’s a skill set. And you don’t have to do it the way that other people did it because you’re different. And I think that’s really, really cool.

Brittaney Chatman 25:42
Exactly. Thank you, I appreciate that. I just, you know, from and I think to the reason why it’s probably so easy to do that it’s because I’ve just always been inspired by the future and what it could be. And growing up in my household for about eight years, I was the only child. So there was just me, and my wild, relentless imagination. And so I was able to energize myself with the visions that I’ve had in my imagination along with what I wanted to see for myself in the future, and then just easily turn those visions into thoughts and then those thoughts into action. And so I always tell people that I’m like, as long as you understand what your life purpose is, or you discover that, then the rest of it is really just easy. It’s all about implementation at that point. You know, I, I’ve always wanted to live a life in artistry for as long as I can even remember. You know, I’ve always wanted to sing, and write and act and dance and direct and play instruments. And, you know, I understood that, okay, like, I feel like my purpose is, yeah, I just want to express the truest highest expression (Lesley: Yeah) of my creativity, and I want to use that to nurture and to heal, and to just, you know, relate and be of service to people. So as long as I knew that, I figure, alright, as long as I put myself in positions, to be able to make that happen, then I can just trust that, the universe and the spirit will meet me in the middle. And together will will bring it, will bring whatever visions I have to life together.

Lesley Logan 27:15
Yeah. So okay. Um, couple people are listening and going, how do I figure out what my purpose is? I don’t know, how to, how like, is it something that you journaled, meditated on? It came to you in a dream, like, where like, how do you if people are to ask you like, “How do I, how do I figure out my purpose is?” What do you tell them? What worked for you?

Brittaney Chatman 27:38
Wow, well, you know, I, like I said, I was raised down south, and we’re all about community and gathering, and my family, something that we, I mean, I’m just really grateful that we, that we’ve been doing this is that we gather in the living room or in the kitchen, and we talk. And, you know, my family is always like, ask me questions about “What makes you happy? You know, what do you love to do? Like if you do it was taken away or made you feel like a zombie or that you was just a shell with no life? Like, what would that thing be?” And really allowing myself to write into journal about that. And, yeah, that really helps. And I know it sounds cliche, oh, journal like that. But no, or either ask your friends or ask your family members, like, “Hey, like, what is it that you see in me? You know, that could be helpful in a particular industry.” You know, like my sister, you know, I always tell her, she’s a, she’s a Cancer. Right? But I’ve always known that she she had this thing about her that’s so nurturing, and she’s soft spoken, and she’s able to, she has this ability to get people to relax and to, to be calm, she has this calmness about her. And so I always believed in speaking life into her saying, “You know, wow, like, you’ll be really good at working with children or older people.” And now she wants to become an orthodontist and work with kids and then she also wants to be a counselor. So I have people do that for me too. I just have people even down to like the elementary schoolroom nurse look at me and go like I could see you you know, using your voice for good, you know, you just whether it be through song or a public speaking like this, there’s just something about you that when you speak openly you stand on a stage people pay attention (Lesley: Yeah) and people constantly speaking life into you. So I think it’s also to surrounding yourself around people that you know see something in you and not afraid to speak life into you and to let you know, because that’s also can help him be affirming.

Lesley Logan 29:50
Yeah. Oh, I mean, there’s so many great things in there. I really, (Brittaney: Yeah) I really love that your family ha… I’m like sits around ask these questions to each other. I think like you know, I almost think like for y’all who are still single, listen to the questions people ask on dates and notice when you light up. Because, like, you know what I mean? Cuz sometimes like maybe your family is like, I don’t know, watching the television and not asking people questions. But like, start to ask these questions are really great discussion questions. I was thinking, like, bring them on a, on a car ride sit in traffic, “Okay, what are your three favorite colors? What something you like…” But no one knows about you those kinds of things. And notice what comes up, notice what sticks with you. But then you also said, you know, listen to what other people are saying about you, listen to what they notice about you. Because I think we, we are too in our heads around others. And we’re not noticing, like, what we’re actually putting out there and what they’re receiving. And, and it’s just feedback, y’all, you also don’t like you can also go, “No, I don’t think so.” But like, listen, because it might, it might spark a thing or, and I know people think (Brittaney: Yeah) journaling is so cliche, but like, I find journaling to be so freakin’ relaxing and like it gets the stuff out of my head. Like it just get it out there. And it’s like, “Okay, now it’s now their space in this room.”

Brittaney Chatman 31:04
Exactly. And that’s what it does, especially if you’re someone who’s over analytical like me, and all you Virgos and even Aquarius is like, we got to, we got to work on that. (Brittaney laughs)

Lesley Logan 31:16
I know, I know, like, I know, that’s… Hello, hence the morning pages and the breath work and the multiple to do lists everywhere like it’s, and then I’m like, “I told you that.” And they’re like, “Nope, never did.” And I’m like, “Oh. You’re probably right.” (Lesley laughs)

Brittaney Chatman 31:31
Exactly, exactly. But it helps, it helps put things into perspective. And also, when you go back and read those things, sometimes it gives you a aha moment. Talk about Oprah, like, I love when she says like, “Oh, I had a aha moment” because it’s true. Because I’ve gone back in journals and look back and go, “Oh, yeah, did say that I wanted to do that. And like this makes so much sense. Now I understand why I went down this path instead of this path.” You know, so it’s just, it’s an amazing thing to do when whenever you can write these things down, and then go back and read them because you, you kind of see like, wow, like, the way that I’ve been charting my course, is, is is telling me that I need to go into this direction, perhaps this is what I was meant to do. This is what I was born to do. Because I noticed that from 2001 when I started writing and seeing what happened in writing now, this just makes sense. And this always has been a constant steady thing in my life. (Lesley: Yeah, you’re…) So yeah, it’s a beautiful thing.

Lesley Logan 32:33
You’re you’re right. I mean, like I love the vision board. I need to collect some magazines and do another one because I made a vision board in 2013, y’all and then like, I live in a 500 square foot apartment. So I didn’t want my vision board out for like every stranger come through. So I like put it in a closet. And when I pulled it out, like a year later, it was like almost everything on that vision board had been dealt, like done, like and I wasn’t looking at everyday, (Brittaney: Wow) but I just made it. Right? And so, you know, it’s kind of it’s really fun. I’ve kept it. I still have it. Gets moved with us. Like I’m like this is the original. (Lesley laughs) This is the best one. Oh my gosh, Brittaney, I could talk to you forever because you’re just I mean you are sunshine. But you’re also full of so much positivity and enthusiasm and I want our listeners to hear. Alright, Brittaney, where can they find you, follow you, listen to your music? What’s, what, where do you hang out the most?

Brittaney Chatman 33:25
Yeah, so you can follow me on Instagram at @brittandbroadway – b r i t t and broadway. I’m also on Twitter at @AwesomeBlossomB. I’m on LinkedIn, I’m on Facebook, you know, Brittaney Chatman, just type it up and I’m there. Also, if you want to stream and tune into my EP – Call Me Blossom. I am streaming on all platforms. So whether it be Spotify, Title, YouTube, whatever it is that you use a stranger’s services, please look me up. The support will be amazingly cherished.

Lesley Logan 34:02
Yes. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it. I’m gonna, I’m gonna listen to it. Actually, I’m gonna make and extra Brad does too because I’ll be so fun to talk about you and the song when we do our recap. Okay, so people are in love. They’re like, you’re like the positivity queen and you’re just making magic happen in your life. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have, advice do you have for people listening to this? What should they be doing to prioritize themselves?

Brittaney Chatman 34:28
Mm hmm. Wow, um, you know what? Yeah, it’s okay to give up. You can give up. Just don’t quit. You know, if the elevator stops, just get off and take the stairs. You know, um, when you’re, when you’re happy. And you’re doing things that are in alignment with you. When you’re not giving in, when you’re not settling. That’s when everything starts to happen. So that is why you cannot quit. And also, I would say that, you know, it’s not about being dependent on anyone else to give you your heart’s desire. It’s, it’s the work that you’re putting into it. And when you decide to plant those seeds, you’ll start to see that everything else will unfold, and you will see success, just do not stop. And don’t have your expectations so high, especially for people because people will disappoint you. People will undermine you. People will invalidate you. But you have to shed, those people shed those relationships. You need to have people around you that’s going to lift you up and speak life to you, and encourage you, believing you’re all individuals that you believe in. And if they’re in a room without you, and they hear an opportunity that can help you that they will not be afraid to throw in your name. Right? So have those people around you that support you a village, a tribe, a creative tribe, any any type of tribe, it doesn’t have to be artistic creative tribe. (Lesley: Yeah) But you know, especially if you are though, in the industry, the entertainment industry at at large. Um, you know, this is an industry where you want to get noticed, and it is about getting attention, but you got to understand that you’re not meant to be of the norm, you’re not meant to conform at any means to make people follow you. So, understand who it is you are, you have to constantly decipher what you want, and, and what’s important to you, because nobody will be able to take that away from you. Right? (Lesley: Yeah) And the other thing that I’ll say is, you know, especially I just want to talk to women, you know, we are so celestial. So we we deserve a place in, in any space, whether it be business, corporate, you know, the art, education, you know, we are really able to advance the collective growth, especially of women in any soci… in any platform, at in any society at large. Right? So just stay true to yourself. Understand your power and never let anyone take that away from you.

Lesley Logan 37:24
Beautiful those are some bold and an intrinsic BE IT action items if I’ve ever heard them before like that’s beautiful. Thank you Brittaney for being here. Everyone, how are you going to use these in your life? Like what, what stuck out to you. Do as a humungous favor, screenshot this episode, tag Brittaney and myself @be_it_pod on Instagram, so we can see those, we can cheer you on, so we can be part of that group that’s like, “Yes, you got this.” And, (Brittaney: Yes) and also so that other people who need to hear these words, can because it’s so much easier when everyone around you is being it till you see it.

Brittaney Chatman 37:59
That’s right. That’s right. And thank you so much for having me. Like I really enjoyed… You’re right, I could talk to you forever. It’s such a safe and fun space. So I appreciate that.

Lesley Logan 38:11
Ah, well, thanks and I cannot wait. We’ll have to do another, we’ll have to have one with you and Clare on. Ah … (Lesley laughs)

Brittaney Chatman 38:17
You want and me Clare together at once. Oh gosh, (Lesley laughs) trouble.

Lesley Logan 38:20
I might not get a word in edge wise. (Brittaney: trouble) (Brittaney laughs) Oh my gosh, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. And until next time, be it till you see it.

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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Brad Crowell
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