The Signs of Stress

No One Tells You About

Ep. 184 with Lesley & Brad

“We might not even know that we are under stress.”

Brad Crowell

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Recapping Dr. Kelly Bender’s episode Brad and Lesley, chat about the signs of stress that you may be missing or the stories we create that leads to more stress. Listen in for practical ways to reconnect to your body and find peace.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • Introduction to March MATness!
  • The reason for the strap on a pilates mat
  • The signs you may be missing to show you are stressed.
  • Stress may not be correlated to the reason we are giving it.
  • The power of our minds in response to stress

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Transcript

Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host Brad and I are going to dig into the releasing convo I had with Dr. Kelly Bendor in our last episode. If you haven’t yet listened to this episode, go back, listen to it now. And then come back and listen to this one. Or listen to this one. And then see if you resonate the same things that we did in the last one. It’s just fun. It’s like a quiz. It’s like Jeopardy in reverse. Anyways, we, all just be really all we’re currently in.

Brad Crowell
Jeopardy in reverse, love that. Love that.

Lesley Logan
Maybe it’s just like Jeopardy, in general? I don’t know.

Lesley Logan
I’ll let you figure that out, listener. Ah, all right, love. So I’m in full disclosure. We are in Mexico. This has been pre recorded. (Oh, yeah). If you are seeing socials from me, it’s because the IGs have now allowed you an iPhone to pre schedule your posts. So they were pre scheduled before social (Brad: because we are on vacay). Vacation! Happy 40th to me, happy 40th to Brad, we are taking, I don’t know, how many days we’re here? Like five days to be in Mexico. And like turn the phones, I am hoping that my phone is just off. Maybe I’ll just leave it in a safe at the hotel room. (Brad: That would be amazing). Because also you take all the pictures anyway. So let’s just be real.

Brad Crowell
That implies I’m not turning mine off. But fair, fair.

Lesley Logan
Oh, you know what? Let’s see who can turn those off the longest because I already live on Do Not Disturb. So it’s it’s not hard for me to like just not have a phone because it doesn’t do anything for me.

Brad Crowell
I think that would be really challenging (you guys) that’s a challenge!

Lesley Logan
In like several episodes, we will give you the real deal, disclosure on it. If Brad did it or not? Because

Brad Crowell
I didn’t do it. Yeah.

Lesley Logan
All right. So anyways, we are, we are in Mexico celebrating our 40th. And, and also, if you’re listening to this in real time, it is March Matness. And I know you’re thinking Lesley, you said a T. Not the D

Brad Crowell
she’s like weirdly saying that word.

Lesley Logan
And let me just tell you. March Madness also happens like pretty fucking late in March and goes into April, which makes no sense to me. But I am going to be doing some bets because I have this new hobby of sports betting. Welcome to Vegas. But at any rate, I did say madness on purpose, because it is all about doing the Pilates Mat work. And you all are like, ah, the mat is so hard, it is (pretty hard). It’s gonna it’s gonna make you do it all on your own. And so because of March Matness, we put the mat flashcards on sale, we sure did. We shared it. So go to opc.me/flashcards Hey, check out that URL have sort short it is

Brad Crowell
that’s how we do, we’re getting better.

Lesley Logan
opc.me/flashcards

Brad Crowell
Yeah, that’s how we do and then later this month, we are really excited. We’re starting this new endeavor on the OPC site, where we’re hosting workshops, and we’re getting everybody involved, meaning your opinion is is needed in order to know what kind of workshops we should be hosting. But a couple times a year, like three, four times a year, we’re going to be doing workshops periodically. And we’ll bring in different guests and Lesley will host them herself and all things. So if you would like to be on the list for that just go to opc.me/workshops and you will be added to the waitlist. But at the end of this month in March, we’re going to be hosting one. So stay tuned!

Lesley Logan
We are going to be hosting one, you’ll want to be on that waitlist to hear what it is. But also it’ll be it’ll involve me and the other OPC teachers, which is going to be so much fun. And I have a couple of workshops that I’m thinking of doing. So if you’re wanting to be part of that planning meeting, you just want your opinion to be heard. Then opc.me/workshops

Brad Crowell
Gotta be part of the planning.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, that’s that’s that’s how you can plan. All right. Before we get into Dr. Kelly Bender again. I fucking love her. (Yeah, she’s awesome). I’m obsessed. It makes me want to have like a doctor hour, which is a little hard because they’re not only allowed to say kind of so much stuff without like getting in trouble with being a doctor. However, we do have an audience question and what is that?

Brad Crowell
So we had a question about Pilates equipment. And it was: does my Pilates Mat need to have a strap? You know if you if you if you know I’m a yoga guy, my my mat? Why would my mat have a strap except to carry it? Pilates mats are very different.

Lesley Logan
That’s so true.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, what the hell, I was like a strap that doesn’t make sense. But so Pilates mats are stiff and they like you know, you could have an actual strap like stapled to the very end of it that you can flip your feet underneath of it. (Yeah, yeah). Slip it up over your ankles.

Lesley Logan
Let me think of like how many yoga straps I purchased and then never used because they’re so annoying. They make…

Brad Crowell
They’re never quite long enough.

Lesley Logan
Well, they’re either the Velcro that goes and then you’re correct.

Brad Crowell
Hows that go?

Lesley Logan
There are they’re like they’re kind of under your armpit but they’re not but they are

Brad Crowell
Yeah, they’re never quite long.

Lesley Logan
They’re just I don’t know I don’t know who was the the fit model for that but wrong person.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, fail blog.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so oh my god that was so old. You haven’t said that in years. You used to say, y’all he’d say fail blog when we started dating and I was like, does that bother me?

Brad Crowell
Are you kidding me? First time hearing this folks, this is news to Brad

Lesley Logan
it’s also, not it’s just it was part of that whole back I mean we’ve been together for so long, like almost this fall is 10 years so like, wow, well that we met we met 10 years. Yeah, that’s true. But back then you all, you would say hashtag whatever, hashtag this and so failed blog just made me think of like saying hashtag goals like just in general you would just like say hashtag (Brad: hashtag class)

Brad Crowell
anyway (oh my god) dag me with a spoon.

Lesley Logan
Okay, that is okay, you can say that. So anyways, um, so this is a great question, I get this, I actually get this often. And I wanted to talk about it because one of my elevate members was struggling with her roll up. And she was like, I don’t like this. I like this. I like this. And I was like, well, she doesn’t have a strap. So like if she didn’t like any of those things. But then she got a strap, and it changed everything. And so here’s the deal, a travel Pilates mat that rolls up like as foam, it’s like squishy squish. That having a strap on it is going to do nothing for you, except for help you carry it so. But if you are on a firm mat, so like I have an affiliate link for ControlLogix. Everything I actually have an affiliate link for everything the bounce buddy makes. So hit us up if you want it. But a Pilates mat that is actually pretty firm has a strap on it or your Cadillac can have a strap off the edge. You you do want a strap, I’m just gonna say it. If you can’t afford that right now, don’t have the space for that right now then please know that you want to have a magic circle. Because you need something to help you activate your seat. Activate your Thass to help you do a roll up. All right, it’s just what you need. Now, can you do a roll up without a strap and automatic circle and not move around? Yes. Hi, I can do that. I’ve been doing this for 20 years. So, So can I help you do it? Absolutely. Do I want to do that was one of the OPC workshops, yes is on that list.

Brad Crowell
There you go get on that list. opc.me/workshops.

Lesley Logan
But does your mat need to strap. It’s, I don’t want if you are not doing Pilates because you don’t have a mat with a strap. I don’t want that to be a rule for you. But if you can see…

Brad Crowell
Yeah, it’s not gonna stop you from doing it. But it’ll be, it can benefit your practice.

Lesley Logan
There’s two exercises you’re gonna use a strap for, there’s two. So it is only two exercises. However, it is the difference between being able to access like 17 other exercises. So the better your roll up is with a strap, the more you’re gonna love open like rocker, the more you’re gonna love teaser, the more you’re gonna love control balance often, like there’s just a lot of things that have in a strap helps teach you how these connections. So what I would say is if you can set aside some bucks every week, so that you can save up for a mat. Use our affiliate link get a little discount a little moment. And, and then watch your mind get blown with what happens with a strap.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, I think someone just texted us a a fun savings idea of saving one (for my brain) $1 on week one, $2 and week two, $3 and week three, etc, etc, etc. And by the end of the year, week 52 You’re saving $52. And I because I’m a math junkiem nerd loser guy, I went on my Google Sheets and I added them all up. It ends up being like more than 1300 bucks that you’re saving over the year.

Lesley Logan
Just so you know, you could buy two mats with that with a strap. Yeah, my affiliate link you could.

So that doesn’t include tax and shipping. But you guys, what I would just say is if Pilates is something that you want to be part of your life, buying an expensive mat, it may sound weird, but it’s the same as like buying a weight bench.

Brad Crowell
Right? Yeah. Or like a set of weights. You know, that could be a couple 100 bucks.

Lesley Logan
Oh my god, Brad, do you know how expensive weights are. I know you just bought those like little little chips, the little chips traverse and you got it somehow somebody definitely missed a zero in those. However…

Brad Crowell
I know I looked at the five pounds that were 35 bucks for two set of fibers.

Lesley Logan
Yes, I was looking for these like these weight things where you could adjust the weight without having to like be dramatic about it. They went from $300 to $700 during the pandemic and I was like someone is ripping me off. So it’s all it’s all relative, you guys. It’s what you value and if you want Pilates as part of your life forever, which I hope you do, then get them out with the strap. Hit the link below. Alright, that’s what I got to say about that.

Brad Crowell
Love that, all right well…

Okay, maybe now let’s talk about Dr. Kelly bender.

Lesley Logan
I feel like you’re about to announce and now…

Brad Crowell
In the left corner (we have) as an expert in natural science Kelly benders passionate about helping individuals achieve optimal health and finding Healing Within. She’s happy to call Los Angeles her home where she you can find her teaching others and working at her clinic, Pure Vitality Rejuvenation Center, which she has been expanding. And she’s had all sorts of amazing opportunities now. Really cool.

Lesley Logan
It’s so cool. Yeah, I’ve known her for so long. I’ve known her for years. And we did Cambodia with her.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, she came to Cambodia with us. Yes. Yeah. So she’s a friend.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. Oh, we’re besties. She’s even on my like little top. You know, the quick link on the texting.

Brad Crowell
Oh, yeah, the pins. She’s, that’s what it’s called (There you go). Well, I really enjoyed that episode. In fact, I listened to it twice. I thought it was you know, I listened to it the first time through. And like, it’s just so full of detail that it just like kind of went over like past me it just like, wow, you know, and I thought… (I had to listen to it twice) So I went back, I slowed it down and actually, like, listened to each of these things. And what I loved was the idea that we might not even know that we are under stress. We might be saying, Oh, no, I don’t have any stress. I’m good. You know, I’m totally good. But we also, which I don’t know, I’m not I’m not actually talking about me. I’m speaking for a friend. Right now.

Lesley Logan
Also, I’m just thinking about the meme that we did not send to your cousins when they said, I’m having a second… They’re having a second child and you’re like, Jason, this was from shits Creek, and she’s like, I’m fine. I’m fine.

I’m good. I’m so good. And her hair is like exploding. She’s stressed it up.

Brad Crowell
Because we are so often disassociated from our own bodies. Meaning we don’t know what we’re feeling. We don’t like understand when like, we’re being impacted by stress, we might not even realizing that we are experiencing signs of stress. Okay, so I compiled a list and went back through and I literally wrote down everything that she just ticked off because it went past like, super fast. Here are some signs that you may be under stress. Skin issues could include rashes. GI issues could include chronic diarrhea, could be constipation. You could actually have…

Lesley Logan
You need to say this like a like a commercial for drugs.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, right. Experiencing skin issues, rashes, chronic chronic diarrhea, constipation, GI issues, sleeping cortisol, hormones weight gain, then don’t take this if you’re allergic to it. Yeah.

Lesley Logan
If you’re allergic to stress your brain is shrinking hormones waking, irregular menstrual cycles, spotting, headaches. Call call your doctor now to see if stress is good for you.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So (we don’t watch like we watch like one show. And they every commercial does drugs). I know.

Brad Crowell
Alright, anyway, GI issues. It could be diarrhea, constipation, you could actually not have hunger. So if you wake up in the morning, and you’re like, oh, yeah, you know, I don’t, I don’t eat in the morning because I’m never hungry. Actually, that could be a sign that you’re under stressed.

Lesley Logan
When I taught in LA this was like a badge of honor with my ladies are like, Oh, I’m not hungry. I’m not hungry. I’m like, cuz you’re stressed case.

Brad Crowell
Yeah you’re sleeping, if you’re not sleeping well, or you’re not sleeping consistently, that will put your body under stress, your cortisol levels will actually increase when your body is under stress. And that will actually lead to the brain shrinkage.

Lesley Logan
This is crazy. Your brain gets smaller.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, so So I feel like I need to go back and re listen to that part because she was talking about cortisol versus not whatever it’s supposed to be in. Anyway, if you’re under constant amount of stress, you’re pumping your your brain with cortisol, and you can eventually get used to it. You should not be like flooding your brain with cortisol, it actually you know, is it’s not good for you.

Lesley Logan
Everything in moderation, including moderation. Like your like your a little bit of cortisol can be really good for you. It’s like the way to like get you to like run away from a fucking leopard.

Brad Crowell
Well, that’s what I mean. But if you you can’t be continuously under that, that space or it won’t be doing its function that it’s supposed to be (correct). Yeah. But wait there’s more, hormones could be effective. You know, with by stress, weight gain, irregular menstrual cycles, spotting, headaches, muscle tightness, particularly your shoulders, or maybe your jaw. This is when I didn’t realize that I used to do this a lot. When I rode my motorcycle. I would clench my jaw because I’m like, so focused and it’s stressful, lack of hunger. I already mentioned that sleep and then as specifically with sleep changes in your mood.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so y’all how stressed out are you?

Brad Crowell
Yeah. And what these all are, are signs that you are experiencing stress, okay? And we often will just say like, oh, no, I’m not stress, I just don’t sleep very well.

Lesley Logan
Well, also, like, you know, something that people don’t realize is that the pandemic was an acute cause of stress for the entire world. And back in 2021, we brought in my somatic therapist to actually check with our agency members about like, are you still living in that stressed out like, survival mode zone?

Brad Crowell
Yeah, it was weird because it went way longer. Acute means like, it’s short. And yeah, but like, it wasn’t it like became this long

Lesley Logan
Turned it as a chronic thing. And so it’s like, it’s so good to be able to go into that third gear that survival mode gear, because, hello, you should survive with that. But so many people that we were around, I could tell we’re not they’re not getting out of that gear. (Brad: Their not down shifting). Yeah, that’s thank you for doing that. Brad. I don’t actually know what it means. I’ve never stick.

Um, we brought her in, because so many of the people that we were coaching, were not aware of the stress. And I think that if you’re listening to this, if any of these things sound like oh, I’ve been going through that. It’s possible that just like a frog in the water, to slowly turning the heat up. That stress was like a little bit and a little bit in a little bit and a little bit, but you didn’t realize it because you’ve just been in so long. And so it’s so (Brad: do you realize) that you’re under stress

Brad Crowell
And you are a frog in a pot of boiling water? Do you realize

Lesley Logan
okay, so I’m gonna tell you what I loved.

Brad Crowell
Yeah. Moving along.

Lesley Logan
If you could be a fly on the wall of this room. So I actually this blew my fucking mind. Okay, it blew, my mind was blown like emoji. She said, what you’re feeling and what you’re attributing that to may not actually be correlated at all. And I’m actually going to tell a little story that actually goes back to what you loved. So let me just finish this thought. And I’ll tell the story. Yeah. So she said, often, we come up with a reason to figure out to read, like, we try to reason why we feel a certain way. And we like take signs around us. Oh, that must be it. And that’s Oh, Eureka. I know why I feel this way. It’s that person over there. (Right). And so I was taking one of my clients, and she told me she’s like, that she got a massage at my favorite place to validate massage. And she’s like, Yeah, I’m going back for a facial because I gotta talk to them. But there’s something wrong with their, their sheets, because I got I broke out on the left side of my face. And I said, you don’t think that has anything to deal with, like, you’re not living in your own home, you’re in a rental that someone just told me broke into, you have been like, had to like, raise your rates in your business, shift everything. You don’t think that this left side of your face breakout has anything to do with just like stress. So she…

Brad Crowell
flash, flash touching,

Lesley Logan
touch, and then she kept touching your face. She kept touching it as a second to your face. Because you’re gonna make it worse. she asked me later, she’s like, found the culprit. It’s the sheets in the rental house that I’m in and I’m like, yeah. Anyways, physically, so but I also like, it’s also the stress of what your living situation is right now, guys. So the point being, she decided to reason that this breakdown in her face must have to do with the sheets of a massage, would it? And then she’s like, No, it’s a sheet of where I’m sleeping. It’s like, actually, it’s the life that you’re currently in, in this exact moment. But we tried to like come up with an answer, because that’s what human beings want to do. We want to have an answer. And so what she was saying, and this is so important, is like, I think I had I think I learned this the hard way. I would have stomach issues after like, Oh, can’t eat that thing.

Brad Crowell
Oh, sure. I mean, I was gonna talk about this.

Lesley Logan
And then we did a bunch of research and it’s like, well, actually, that stuff can live in the body for 21 days. So it might not have been from what you did at that moment

Brad Crowell
It could have have been from literally three weeks. So what the hell

Lesley Logan
And then once I found that I was like, are you fucking kidding me? (Yeah). What in the world? So the point being is that she’s like, when stuff is coming up, try not to attach it to any other thing around you. And like, because it might not have that thing you might actually be, you might literally change jobs.

Brad Crowell
she was, she was talking about, like, the example she used was like going into work, when you go into work, you may feel stressed. And then you’re like, this job is causing me stress, when in fact, it may have nothing to do with the job, it may have to do with the timing of something else. And your body is now deciding to do you know, to notify you. But then we associate it with stress. And then she said, what the crazy part is, is is a learned behavior. So you might say, my job stresses me out, but it wasn’t your job that stressed you out. Then, a week later, when you’re no longer stressed, you now have learned that your job stresses you out. So every time you show up at your job, you’re stressing yourself out even though there’s the actual thing that caused that stress is gone.

Lesley Logan
It’s insane. We can, our minds are so powerful.

Brad Crowell
I mean, it’s, it’s like Pavlov’s dogs with the you know, where the dog smells would water when they heard the sound. Yeah, and then they’re like, food must be coming. We can we can do that to ourselves. It’s kind of amazing.

Lesley Logan
I mean, it’s pretty crazy. Well, but that goes back to like the guy like you can use this for good y’all like there was that guy who he was a prisoner of war. And he pictured himself playing golf at his local golf course every day. And he pictured himself golfing every single hole and, and hitting a par. And after four years of being a prisoner of war, which y’all just like think about what four years of that would do you like deconditioned all these things he gets home and his friends like what are you gonna do? He’s like on play a round of golf. And they’re like, really? Do you have this thing for that? And he did a par because his mind was so conditioned that I should have par at this course he did it after for four plus years about golfing. The author of The Sun Does Shine, I’m so sorry. I don’t remember his name. But he was a prisoner in on death row for decades. He like he got through that because of his mind. In his mind, he would like he was married (Anthony Ray Hinton) Yes. Oh my God, he’s so powerful. He is so inspiring. But he like he sat there and like picture a movie in his life where he’s married to Halle Berry. And then there was a moment where he like, was married to Sandra Bullock because the speed anyways, it’s just like, you can do amazing positive things with your mind. Or you can do negative things with your mind and what Kelly was saying Dr. Bender was saying is like, try not to make reason around the things that are not feeling good. Because that you may be causing yourself more stress than you actually ever need to have. Like, wouldn’t it be okay if we were just okay not knowing why that was happening? Thar’s gonna stress the perfectionist out.

Brad Crowell
All right. So finally, let’s talk about those Be It action items. What bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your combo with Dr. Kelly bender?

Lesley Logan
Well, she had one and it was move your body. Well, she actually said SHAKE, SHAKE, SHAKE your body. Shake it all the time. Do do do

Brad Crowell
Senora.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. Sorry, guys. We went to the Mayfair. And as our new ritual is over at the Mayfair and they do with the conga line. Yeah, we get up and we dance around the whole restaurant. And it’s to that song anyways. But she really did say like, you need to shake your body because shaking your body gets you back into your body. It’s a great way to release stress. And every time I see our dogs, like everyone smile, like they just like, shake that like, you know, like,

Brad Crowell
oh, yeah, just making sure

Lesley Logan
If you’re on YouTube watching YouTube, then you saw dododo,they do like, Have you ever watched them?

Brad Crowell
They just flap thei ears, they shake, you know, they like to stimulate basically.

Lesley Logan
You can see the energy go from the head to their tail. Like they just like, let it go. And we’re like, let me keep it in. And I’m just gonna hold it in here. And I’m gonna keep it here. And I’m not going to share with anybody.

Brad Crowell
Right? Yeah, I mean, definitely. It basically it’s like a it’s like a quick reset. And she was talking about how she leaves herself a few minutes between each client to dance and move and you know, actually, you know, push her the reset button for herself too. And that’s something that’s easy and free that we can take advantage of in our lives.

Basically that, the, this is so funny because you know, not funny, but this is very connected to what Lesley does, Pilates, because movement releases stress. Yeah.

Lesley Logan
And also you guys, when you do breath work, that’s a great another place to also shake it out. Just like she was just showing you like just shake. Just yeah, like just take your hands. I’m doing it in front the camera. Yeah. So how are you gonna use that tip in your life?

Brad Crowell
Where are you going to shake?

Lesley Logan
Where are you going to shake, shake, shake Senora shake it all the time. Anyways, I’m and this is just such a fun. I really wanted to have this for a long time because I just I know, I know ladies listening and a few good men like stress is real. And it’s okay to have it from time to time. I hope what you got from this episode is you don’t need to actually figure out the reasoning behind it. You can just go I’m stressed out right now. And you could shake it out. And then you can take some actions to do some things that will actually feel good. So what are those things that make you feel good? That’s my, my I’m adding to the Be It Action Item. What makes you feel good? I love it. (Yeah). All right. I’m Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell
And I’m Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
Thank you so much for joining us.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over on IG at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of ‘Bloom Podcast Network’.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.

Lesley Logan
Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.

Brad Crowell
Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.

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