INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan
Hello, welcome back to the Be It pod I’m so happy you’re here. I just I’m, I’m loving, I’m loving picking guests out for you, I have to be honest. And as I meet different women and men as well, I think of how their life story or what they’re working on can help you. And this particular woman, our guest today, Giselle Schroer, she is someone that I met in a mastermind, and I just heard her story and we got to talk, you know when, went to Mexico together as a group as well. And you really get to know people when you travel with them. And her, her outlook and her mission on this planet is so aligned with what my mission is, in an a, and also in a very different way. But just there’s a lot of alignment, she is here to make sure that every woman feels good inside the body that they have, and, and fuels themselves. And so we actually talk a lot about fueling, and how we treat our bodies. And she has one of the most unique things that you could be doing for yourself right now, at the end of this podcast, what you could do next. It’s, it’s actually very simple and very obvious and common sense and something we don’t do. And so I can’t wait for you to hit the end. And if you’re tempted to skip to the end, definitely listen to her journey and how she got to where she is. I think I think of her journey, and I think of a lot of the journeys of guests I’ve had and even yours. And sometimes or oftentimes really the reason we do what we do is because it’s somehow we solved a problem we had, and then we want to solve it for other people who have the same thing. And, and so if you’re sitting there like wondering, like, “What am I supposed to do? What am I… Why am I here? Why am I going through this struggle right now?” Right? Like, “What is this struggle for?” It’s probably for the person who’s coming after you in your life, who you’re gonna help. And that’s the only thing it’s actually like a side note how I like to think about a lot of obstacles that I hit. Not necessarily in the moment I’m freaking human, definitely frustrated, frustrated, definitely shed a few tears, definitely want to have a tantrum, like why isn’t this working the way it’s supposed to? I did all the right things. I don’t understand it’s not working the way I wanted. And the lesson in it is something that someone else is going to need down the road. Or I’m going to need that muscle down the road. And so I encourage you, if you are going through anything right now, and you’re really wondering, like, why is this happening to me? You know, it’s not easy when you’re in it. But hopefully there’s a moment is a break in the thought in the loop that you can ask yourself, how is this happening for me, and what she her life set her up for was to help women, many like you. Fall in love with yourself and feel yourself so you can really be the woman that you want to be, the person you want to be in this planet. And I’m really excited. So I’m going to bring on Giselle right after this message. And I can’t wait to hear what your takeaways are at the end. So thank you again for being here. And here is Giselle.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and business fitness coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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EPISODE

Lesley Logan
Oh my goodness. Well, welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Giselle I’m so excited that you’re here. Everyone thank you for listening. So Giselle and I met through a mastermind a new one that I’m in and we sat down at each other’s table. So it’s like one of those things where I like had met people via the zoom boxes. And then we got to be in person and we went to their table and I just love your approach to life. You are a busy, busy mom of boys and you run your own business. And I’m super passionate about is women who run their own businesses. And and so we had gotten to talking about what you do and the things you do for women and I just had to have you on this podcast because not only have you been Being It Till You See It on your own life and in your business, but you coach people on macro nutrition that I believe I’m a big fan of how we fuel ourselves is really a big key component to us actually doing anything in this world. So welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, Giselle. Will you tell everyone, Who you are? What you rock out? Where you’re from?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, thanks, Lesley. Yeah, so like Lesley said, my name is Giselle. And first and foremost, like she said, I’m a mom to two boys, crazy, crazy busy boys who, thank God are not here at the moment, you would hear them in the background. But I am also a health and nutrition coach and a certified personal trainer. And I help women to learn to love and nurture their bodies from the inside out through a balanced approach to health and fitness. So yeah, I, I am a coach first and foremost, but I also like, haven’t always had the healthiest relationship with nutrition and fitness. I’ve always been passionate about it, but not always the healthiest relationship. So I spent years battling eating disorders, body dysmorphia, punishing my body for not being what I thought it should look like, or maybe what I felt like society was telling me my body should look like you know, I wasn’t necessarily as thin as the models that were gracing the covers of the magazines, or as my best friend who was, you know, stick thin. So I just continued to punish myself through eating disorders and over exercising. And unfortunately, those very unhealthy habits led to me dealing with a plethora of health issues from hypothalamic amenorrhea, adrenal fatigue, hypothyroidism, and eventually secondary infertility and multiple miscarriages. So it was years and years and years of learning, that, you know, I had done so much damage to my body, that something needed to change. So I mean, eating disorder started in like seventh grade, and I’m now 40, and my firstborn, what… is 10. So that was kind of 10 years ago was when I kind of started learning the damage that I had done to my body, and changing my lifestyle, and my, my food and my exercise. So yeah, and now that’s kind of why I’m so passionate about helping women learn to, like I said, love and nurture their bodies, through diet and exercise in a way that is healthy from the inside out.

Lesley Logan
Okay. Thank you for being so honest, and sharing all of that, because there’s some I don’t have kids, but there is a lot that I definitely can, like resonate with, from when I grew up. I remember like, I used to have all the teen magazines, and I would rip out the exercise pages. And I would like look at the girls. And I look at like, I look at kids now. And I’m like, I was never that thin even…` my parents made fun of me. They said they could tell when I grew because I would have tan lines where my roles were as a baby, you know? And, and so I just I too started like dieting early on, and, and doing terrible things that now my stomach is reminding me like you didn’t treat us well, when you were younger. And we are dealing with those things. And I wanted to talk about that. Because I think when we punish our bodies, we’re so obsessed with like, what we look like on the outside. It stops us from doing our things that we are here on this planet to do so can you think of like, can you think of a time when you’re dieting and your dysmorphia and your eating disorders were keeping you from actually going after your dreams?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, so we I got pregnant with my first son pretty easily, we didn’t have to really try very hard. Even though I I know at that point, my life, I wasn’t at a very healthy time, I still didn’t have any issues I was younger too, when we started trying to get pregnant with our second child just two years later, was when I started learning about all of the damage I had done to my body. So you know, I started going to doctors, like why am I not getting pregnant, we went through a year of secondary infertility where I just wasn’t able to get pregnant and diagnosed with hypothalamic amenorrhea, which means that you have a loss of the menstrual cycle. And this can happen from a lot of different reasons. But for myself, and for a lot of women, it happens when you are under eating. When you were over exercising. It’s very prevalent in the health and fitness industry with fitness instructors, things like that. So anyway, so I you know, I discovered I had that and not even when you learn that you have that doctors don’t necessarily say like, you need to not exercise as much or you need to eat more food, they just kind of like tell you, you know, oh, you have this like maybe gain a little bit of weight. So I kind of started doing my own research and reading about, you know, people who had it and other health and fitness instructors who had it and learning that, you know, the reason I had it was because I was doing the damage to my body and all of the damage I’d done. So I gained some weight, started eating a little bit more food, but still was having issues and I started having miscarriages and doctors weren’t really diagnosing it as anything. And this is where it became my own health advocate and really dove into learning, like, what was going on. It was from a lot of what I had done, it was because of how I wasn’t fueling my body. But I did see specialists, saw a naturopath – who kind of helped me to learn that like, you know, food is going to help me to heal my body. Nutrition is number one, and you know, is a huge mindset shift for me. And in that time, I kind of learned a little bit about macronutrients nutrition, and how to balance your body, your food through proteins, fats, and carbs, and how to eat more food. And that it’s okay to weigh more. Right?

Lesley Logan
Yeah. (Giselle: Yeah) That’s so this is, I mean, thank you for sharing that story. Because I feel like there’s, I know for sure, because I know some of our listeners so well, but that this is a story that thinks they can go that happened to me too. And I think it’s so interesting, because especially in the in the States, you know, it’s like, every time we have a doctor’s like, we’ll lose 10 pounds. And that will, you know, but no one actually talks about how to do that healthier or what that even looks like. And then we’re so conditioned to seeing some foods is good. And some foods is bad that you know, or did like, just go under the calories, and then you’ll be fine. And it’s like, Yeah, well, you can eat a whole bag of M&M’S® and be under calories, and you’re not going to be fine. Actually, like, that’s not so great for you. And so, I just really appreciate you sharing that story because you love your kids so much, it was so important to you to have them in to actually find out that by not eating healthy, you was causing issues there for you. Thank you. Um, I wonder though, you know, going from someone who, who was, you know, under eating over exercising, to then find all this information, becoming an advocate. And then also you’ve ended up becoming, you know, you’re certified in this your training, this is how you do. How, I feel like there had, what was your mindset shift? What were you telling yourself, because I feel like going from someone who is maybe, not maybe, definitely under eating, over exercising, to like, now I’m, this is how… I preach and teach and, and this is how I’m trying to live my life. It can’t be easy to just switch like that, like, what were you having to tell yourself? What was the mindset shift there that you had to go through?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah. So I’ve never been that girl that could like eat whatever she wanted, you know. And a lot of that does come from the fact that I was under eating for so long, so that my metabolism adapted. And I see that so frequently in women that I coach and women just in general, that they’re under eating, you know, eating because we’ve told eat 1200 calories, eat 1500 calories. I mean, I’m 5’10″… twelv, 1200 calories to me as well below my BMR. And so my metabolism had adapted. And so just looking at a piece of cake, how it gain weight because my metabolisms running at 1200 calories. And anytime you eat over that, your body just stores it, right, because you don’t need it. But I want it to be that girl who could go to dinner, go out to dinner, you know, and order a regular dinner and then order dessert. I love wine. I love chocolate chip cookies, I love chocolate. But I always felt like you know, if I ate those things, had to go burn it off in the gym the next day, you know, like punish myself right away. So I longed for it, I wanted it. And it got to a point as we’re you know, it’s a gradual mindset shift for sure. And that’s really what I coach, in that, you know, it’s okay to eat the cake. We balance that with some other foods. So you know, if you want the cake, maybe you’re not ordering the hamburger and fries, right. So learning how to kind of have that checks and balances approach with nutrition to where, you know, the majority of the time, I’m fueling my body with good, healthy foods that I know are going to make me feel good. But then I can also eat the cake if I want it or the chocolate chip cookie, I can have the wine. I’m just going to kind of maybe balance it out with something else. So it’s a process definitely it’s a mindset shift. It definitely took me a while. But now that I’m here, yeah, I have my wine if I want it and my cookies, you know, I just kind of learn how to make it fit within my daily nutrition.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so was there, so you were you are kind of basically you are just figuring out like, what is the balance and be, and trusting that process… And (Giselle: yeah), and how how did you trust that process? Because I know for me, you know, I was underweight for too long. And you get so many compliments, especially in LA. (Giselle: yeah) You get tons and like then when you start gaining weight noone… that compliment, it’s like not even compliments… It’s like, the side eye. And and so it had, it was really hard for me. I will be honest, like I had to decide myself like this is actually fine. Like when you look at pictures of yourself. You look really good now, before you looked really sick. You look really good. I had to like tell I had to give myself a pep talk. Like was our pep talk you gave yourself because you were having to change literally how you lived your life.

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, it’s funny you say that because, you know like you just then people would tell me all the time when I was thin, like, “You look so good,” you know. And in reality, I’m over here like burning myself into the ground. And that just kind of fed into it, right, it feeds into it. And now when I post side by side pictures of myself, you know, years ago when I was anorexic and bulimic and over exercising compared to now people say, “Oh, my gosh, you look so much better now.” But nobody stopped me on the side of the street right now saying, “You look amazing,” right? Yeah, so we do kind of, first and foremost, I hired a coach that could help me to support me and guide me and I think that’s really important is, if you don’t have somebody in your corner, or somebody that as educated or somebody that knows your story, to hire, you know, reach out for help, whether that be a nutrition coach, a personal trainer, a therapist, you know, making sure that you have somebody in your corner who’s also going to help you and support and guide you. And then unfollowing and getting rid of the negativity in your life, like you don’t need to follow these people on social media that are trying to portray this perfect thing or that don’t make you feel good, you know. So not, it’s kind of like with food, where I say, just remove it, and you won’t be thinking about it. It’s with images and body images, if you’re seeing things that aren’t making you feel good and remove it, and you won’t be focused on that, you’ll be focused more on yourself.

Lesley Logan
Oh, my gosh, that is brilliant, that is the best because it is true. Like what we see, we like start to see evidence for we believe. And so it’s like, if and if we don’t curate our own feed, to giving us the information that we want to be believing it’s going to just keep us in the end. The other thing, I think you for sure, that’s a great hot tip. For sure, save that one, everyone will come back to that for towards the end, we get to there are action steps at the end. But you know, I’m with it. Let’s, let’s talk about food for a bit. So everybody is different, and everyone can eat differently. And some people can like eat the cake. And that’s not me. But that’s not my family either. So I eat the cake. But you know, it’s I’m not gonna Yeah, my husband eats a pizza, his abs are more defined. And you know, so it’s all in balance. But are there certain foods that people can be thinking about if they’re trying to have more energy, more confidence even? Like, is there a food that we should be like considering like putting more of our diet if we’re trying to like actually have the energy to do the things we want to do in this life?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of people don’t even notice that they don’t have the energy that they can potentially have. And feel as good as they can potentially feel until they start changing their diet and their lifestyle a little bit. And so I think just people don’t know how good they can feel, right. And so yeah, just focusing, you know, on eating a lot of whole foods and really balancing your food. And that’s what I found in macronutrient tracking. And that’s what I really coach, you know, my clients and other women and doing is learning how to eat the right amount of macronutrients, that’s your protein, your fats and your carbs, for your particular body and your goals. So like you mentioned, your husband, you know, he, his macronutrient profile is completely different from your macronutrient profile, right. And a lot of us are just eating like, our neighbors, or our best friend is or whoever we see on Instagram telling us to eat this certain way, where we should be eating for our individual goals and our individual lifestyle. So really learning, like, what you need in order to fuel your body in terms of protein, fats and carbs, is super important. Because if you’re not an athlete, you might not need as much carbs as like somebody who’s an endurance athlete. Right? (Lesley: Right) Um, if you’re not, if your goal is not to build muscle and tone up and shed fat, then you might not need as much protein as somebody who has that goal. If you’re a vegetarian, you might not be eating as much protein. So your individual macronutrient profile is super important to know. Because then you can really fuel your body for its optimal potential that is with energy, sleep, stress, you know, physique, performance, all of those things come when you’re really balancing your nutrition.

Lesley Logan
Okay, so a couple things just to because in case somebody is listening, they’re like, what is macro nutrition? (Giselle: Yeah.) And also, can we go back to the BMR? Because you said BMR, and I was like, “Uh huh.” But just in case, some of us are not trained in it. So anyone listening might not know what the BMR is and what macro nutrition it can you just like, give a little like one on one on that?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah. So everybody has a baseline of calories that they need to be intaking on a daily basis just to like live, to lie in bed, to breathe, to barely even to breathe just to lie there until like actually live. That’s your basal metabolic rate. So that’s what BMR stands for. And unfortunately, a lot of people are eating below that because like I said, I’m 5’10” my BMR is like 1500, and for a long time I was eating, you know, 1200, 1100 calories. So it’s well below your BMR. And what happens when you eat below that is your metabolism just adapts. And then anytime you eat over that, you know you gain weight, right? Because you don’t need those calories. So, so basically, you know, macronutrients – protein, fats and carbs – everybody’s eating those. That’s just what makes up the calories of our food. So when you look at a nutrition label, and you see the calories, if you look down, it’ll say fat, protein and carbs. And those grams are what makes up the calories of the food. So like you said earlier, you know, you could eat a bag of m&ms and still be under calories. You could eat all of your calories in doughnuts, right? But is that going to really help you feel your best? Probably not. Right? So we want to kind of balance those macronutrients, in terms of making sure that we’re fueling our body for optimal potential.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, yeah, I, the we were on our road trip. And there was a place in Moab that had these vegan, gluten free doughnuts with icing and I was like, we’re totally buying that doughnut. I’m just only gonna have a bite. Because if I have the whole thing, I’m gonna be like crashing on my hike, but I could have a bite. And then we just wrapped it back up. And then later in the day, after we had this amazing dinner, I had another bite. I was like, this is so much fun. Like, there should be ice. I seen doughnuts everywhere, if you know, but I would say it took me a long time to not eat the whole donut. Like cuz I but I learned because it’s not because I it’s bad. It’s just that I don’t feel good after the whole thing. I just want that. I have a sweet tooth. Raise your hand if you have. And I crave it. I was like, if I just have a little bite. Is that enough? And it really was, and and it took a while. But yeah, it’s you. It’s all about the balance on what you need. So thank you for breaking that down. Because I do think that some people are like, “Oh, yeah, I need to have whole foods. But what what does that mean?” And I need to know it. And I think it’s because we, you know, depending on what you’re advertised, or what you see, you know, so many people are eating, they’re living their life off, like shakes for meals, and you know, and that’s also makes it very different when they go to eat real food, how their body adjusts to that. So, so thank you for sharing that. When it comes to you know, especially I think since most women, most people listening are women. And when it comes to eating, you know, as far as you have two boys and then you also have your, your partner, your husband. And so when you you know, I think a lot of people, they You said you can’t eat like your neighbor, you know, how does someone? How do you? How do you find? How do you, Giselle, like, eat for yourself versus like… it’s so tempting to maybe eat wha… the way everyone else’s eating around you. Because I think that a lot of people feel hung up or like people are gonna judge them or people are gonna look at them. What are they gonna say? So how do you handle that so that you continue to fuel yourself?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, I think that’s a good question. Because, yeah, I mean, like you said, you see your husband eating a whole pizza. It’s like, “Oh, I can eat that, too.” I think it’s really being in tune with your body. And like I said, a lot of people don’t even realize how good they can feel until they start fueling their body properly. A lot of my clients, once we’ve started tracking our nutrition for several weeks, several months, we pay so much attention to non-scale victories and not just the scale, like how are we feeling? How are we sleeping? Once you become in tune with those things, and relate that to your specific macronutrients, you realize, like, wow, I feel so much better when I’m eating for me and the food that makes me feel good, and not trying to follow keto, or, you know, whole 30 or drinking a shake for dinner, because my neighbor is drinking that for dinner or selling that. And that’s what I thought, you know. So I think it’s really like getting into it and trying and being consistent with it and paying attention to your body. It’s knowing your body and paying attention to it. You know, I’ll say it again. It’s like we don’t even realize how good we can feel until we start feeling good.

Lesley Logan
So let’s talk about that non-scale victory. I love that. So just so everyone hears it’s non scale, so I don’t even own a scale. I don’t weigh myself unless the doctor actually puts me on the scale. And sometimes I just say a number and hope that they like, keep going. Because it doesn’t mean a lot. You know, like it’s… I go what’s off my clothes test, I got my energy test. What are some non-scale victories that people can pay attention to themselves and their own? You said sleep? What are some other ones?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, definitely. So yeah, I encourage definitely checking in with sleep stress levels, you know, how are you feeling? How are you handling your kids? Are you feeling like at your wit’s end? Or do you feel like a little bit calmer mood, energy levels, how your clothes are fitting how your skin looks, how your hair looks, I mean, non-scale victories can really, really, really be I mean, so open range, because, again, we don’t notice how we feel until how good we can feel until we start feeling better. We don’t even really pay attention those things because we fixate so much on the scale, and once we kind of remove that and pay more attention to How we’re feeling on the inside out better digestion, less bloating, less water retention, less inflammation, you know, like, we live in such a constant inflamed state that we don’t even again, notice how good we can truly feel until we start feeling like, wow, I’m not as sore after my workout as I was, every time a month ago, you know, or I have more energy during my workouts. I’m lifting heavier. All of those things are non-scale victories. And so, so, so important to focus on the scale is a measure of progress. Sure. But it’s not the only measure of progress. And to be honest, it’s not the best measure of progress.

Lesley Logan
Right? You are, you’re so spot on. And because I think we also, we don’t realize how good we can feel because we also didn’t realize when we started feel bad. (Giselle: Yeah) Like, it’s becomes such a… you don’t actually go Oh, like, you have one day where you and then you have the next day where you’re stressed out, and it keeps going. And so I find, especially for women, they’re doing so many things for so many other people, and they’re so last on their list. For sure, they don’t realize how good they can feel until they start feeling that way. Like the bet and I feel like, women especially have so much power in them. Like there are studies that show that like when women make money, they give back to the community, like women take care of the community. Right? So what are what are some ways that like, the simple ways that people can can actually start tracking? And like, what isn’t feeling so great, that’s non-scale? Like? Should they before they work with you? Do you have them like track? Like their sleep? Like, what are some things that can start to focus on that they could maybe make some changes on to feel better?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah, I encourage all of my clients and anyone in general to start journaling, I know it can seem so overwhelming, but just a journal about how you feel in the morning and how you feel at night. You know, each day and just kind of really start paying attention to your body, you know, how was your workout, if you feel like you have a moment of crazy stress, where you’re yelling at your kids reflect on that, like, stop and reflect on what’s going on. I think, like you said, we’re just like constantly pulled in different directions and constantly stressed and constantly just go go go that we don’t ever stop and reflect. So I think it’s a really good idea to you know, whether that be on your in your notes app, or in an actual journal, just making note of how you’re feeling. A lot of it revolves around your menstrual cycle too, your hormones, you know, change during your cycle, they change as we age. And so I use a tracking app with my hormones with my menstrual cycle, and where you can put notes in it based on how you’re feeling at different times during the month. And that just kind of makes you again, be more aware of your body and I think that’s super important. And then in terms of nutrition, like anybody can download a food diary tracking app onto your phone, if you just want to get a general idea of like, what you’re eating, and if it’s affecting how you’re feeling. And so if you start tracking your food, and you’re noticing, like, Oh my gosh, today, I had 220 grams of carbs, and 80 grams of sugar, you know, and I crashed at five o’clock in the afternoon, or I was snapping at my kids, you know, that can 100% be in relation to what food you ate. So I think it’s a great idea for anybody just to, you know, play around with it, track your nutrition and pay attention to how you feel in relation to the food you’re eating.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, cuz I mean, like, that’s so great. Because I, sometimes I’ll be like, I’ll wake up in the morning, like, I am ready to take on the day, this is gonna be awesome. And then either I wait too long to eat lunch, or I didn’t eat the right lunch because I didn’t go grocery shopping. And so I buy like three o’clock, I’m like, well, this isn’t working. And the reason I wanted to bring you on to talk about these things is I really want people to see that sometimes. The reason you’re not able to achieve the goals or go after the thing has nothing to do with education you have has nothing to do with your motivation has nothing to do with. With any of those. It has everything to do with like probably what you’re using as fuel for your, for your, for your system. And so, so I’m I love it’s a simple, it’s not me, it’s not simple, but it’s a great way to start just being aware like the cycle. And then also like, how you started the day, how you ended the day and what was was the fuel along the way. And you can really start to see the patterns there.

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, and I think that’s great, right there, what you said about the fuel, I think that’s what we have to shift our mindset from – is that food is a way to lose weight, or a way to reward or punish ourselves or we eat when we’re stressed or you know, when we’re tired. And that food is fuel. It is the gas that we were putting into our tank and if we were putting crappy gas in our tank, we’re not going to run efficiently and we’re not going to work to our optimal potential. Whether that be you know, getting out there when playing with your kids or reaching whatever dream it is that you’re chasing with your work. If you are fueling your body properly, yeah, you will have more energy to do those things and you will feel better and you’ll have more confidence too.

Lesley Logan
That’s amazing. Okay, so Giselle what are you? What are you currently working on being it right now? Like, what’s something that’s like you’re trying to go for in this moment?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, I mean, I think you know, through all the lessons that I’ve learned through the damage I’ve done all of that I just really want to reach as many women as I can and teach them that you know, you can, you can eat the healthy food and you can also eat the treats, you can drink the wine, you can have it all and still reach your goals and feel really good. I just really want to help women learn to live a sustainable lifestyle through diet and exercise and love and nurture their bodies. I’m a coach too, a whole body approach. So you know, we’re talking sleep, stress, mindset, all of those things in order to just really make you feel as good as possible. So I’m just really trying to be the best coach that I can be that can help as many people as I can to feel really good because it feels good feel good, you know?

Lesley Logan
Yes, it does. It does feel good to feel good. I that is such an awesome goal. I think again, just like there’s if you help all those women feel really good about themselves and have the confidence and have the fuel in their bodies like just the power that each one of those women has in them to to change this planet is incredibly cool and and I know some people are like, “Lesley I’m freaking tired. I’m barely able to keep my eyes open to listen to this podcast with you and Giselle but I’m listening because…” you’re really, like you really want to be it. It’s maybe it’s just for the day and like you have to start like with just today and so (Giselle: yeah), so first Giselle where can everyone follow you, like get to know you? Where where do you hang out?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, I’m on Instagram quite frequently, probably more than I should be like any other coach, right. giselle_schroer_, I’m always in my dm so feel free to shoot me a message there. I’m on Facebook at Giselle Schroer Health and Wellness and then my website giselleschroer.com where you can find information on all of my services. I have a group coaching program where I work with a majority a lot of women, helping them to learn how to track macronutrients and then I offer one on one coaching as well. So yeah, definitely check me out there.

Lesley Logan
Amazing. And we’ll put all of those in the show notes, y’all. It’s really easy to see them because you might be like, How do you spell Schroer? (Giselle: Yeah, I know) It’s okay. I have Lesley as a name and everyone spells it wrong. So like I’ve you know, it’s but you know what, total side note, I went to Starbucks and you know, they never get your name correctly. But they put my name is Wesley It’s been a long time since I’ve gotten a Wesley when I say my name, but everyone spells Wesley with an l e y. And so I’m tempted to say it’s Lesley. It’s Wesley with an L. It’s Wesley with an L.

Giselle Schroer
Well, you’re better than me cuz I don’t even tell him my real name at Starbucks. I give them my Starbucks name. So it does have a full different way.

Lesley Logan
Wait, what’s your Starbucks name? What’s your Starbucks name?

Giselle Schroer
Jen (Lesley: Oh, okay.) Even my kids know it.

Lesley Logan
That’s funny. But then I have to remember that. And that’s, you know what I mean? Like, I remember the new name.

Giselle Schroer
Yeah. There has been a few times where I’m like, they’re calling this Jen girl and she hasn’t come to get her coffee.

Lesley Logan
I love that your kids know. Okay. So, um, Alright, so what everyone’s waiting for, at the end of every episode, we actually I asked every guest, you know, what are some action steps and steps of prioritizing ourselves that we can take today? Because I think it’s one thing to be inspired to be like, Yes Giselle, awesome. I’m gonna fuel myself I’m not I’m going to ditch the scale, I’m gonna work on these non-scale wins. And then it’s like, life happens and their kids are screaming or their work is at them. So what are a few things that people can actually do right now to start, you know, feeling good about themselves and being it until they see it?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah, I think first and foremost, it’s important to learn, to love yourself, and to learn your own body and to stop comparing yourself to other people and trying to do what other people are doing. And just really start to stay in your lane and focus on you and love yourself, wherever you’re at in your journey, what you you might have a goal to lose weight, or you might have a goal to, you know, build muscle, but you can still love yourself right now at this point. So I think first and foremost, it’s super important to love yourself right now, wherever you’re at in your journey. And then really just pay start paying attention to what you’re putting into your body. You don’t have to go out and make huge changes today. You don’t need to do a whole diet overhaul or completely cut out carbs or, you know, jump on the next fad, fad diet bandwagon. You just start making small steps. Maybe it’s eating more vegetables throughout the day, maybe it’s increasing your water intake. Maybe it’s starting to pay attention to how many steps you’re getting and to gradually increase that you don’t have to go from 3000 steps to 10,000 steps in one day. Start with a small increase you know go from 3000 to 500 in one week, and then increase to 4000. Just knowing that every single step, no matter how small is a step in the right direction is super important in every single journey. So

Lesley Logan
I love that. I definitely know someone who’s not drinking enough water. And I was like I was hearing people like to drink more water, drink more water. I’m like, What is more? And how do I do that? And like, how am I going to go from like having, you know, two water bottles a day to four water bottles a day? Like, you’d take some time and I really tried to do it in one day, you can’t like your body has like, what are you doing to me? So I think those small people, it’s probably hard people think, well, how is this helping, but like, you’re right, this even a small tiny step forward is going forward. And and it’s not about overhauling the diet overnight. It’s kind of like, how do we eat maybe more vegetables? And every each day, and then how does that affect then? It’s a domino effect, right?

Giselle Schroer
Yeah, yeah, that compound effect, like one small change will affect you moving forward. So just make the change, just start small. Like I said, everybody starting somewhere, and no matter what your journey is, just again, and it’s super important to just love yourself, no matter. You know, if you’re on day one or day 100. Just stay in your lane and love yourself, no matter where you’re at.

Lesley Logan
And, you know Giselle I don’t think anyone has actually put love yourself as the action step at the end so far in this podcast. So, which is (Giselle: It’s important) it’s so important. You know, it’s like, you know, who I don’t know who started up. But someone said, like, when you say like, when you break down the people you love, like how long until you put yourself on the list? (Giselle: Yeah.) And I was like, oh, huh. And I’m like the prioritize (Giselle: we should be number one) Right. I’m like the now I’m like, you have to prioritize yourself first. And I’m like, Oh, I you know, and also love that love that person that you’re practising first. Like, how about that (Giselle: Right) We all need those reminders. Giselle love you. Love what you’re doing, love your mission on this planet. And just (Giselle: Thank you) so grateful that the universe brought us together. Thank you for being here. Everyone, please do Giselle and I huge favor, and also the women around you by screenshotting this episode, sharing it to your Instagram tag Giselle Schroer and the be_it_pod and tell us what your takeaway was? What is the action step that you’re going to take right now to loving yourself more, and also feeling yourself so that you can actually go after the things that you are on a mission to go after? And until next time, be it till you see it?

Giselle Schroer
Thank you.

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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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