A Fish Can’t Grow

Big in a Small Pond

Ep. 45 ft. Hazel Ortega

“When you create the life that you want. You not only get the life that you said you want, but you also get a bag of chips.”

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Bio

Hazel Ortega is a psychologist, entrepreneur, and author. She is a firm believer that sharing your story can change the world, and pursuing an education will immediately change yours. She grew up in a very dangerous part of Los Angeles with gangs and violence, put herself through high school and college in her 20s as a mom of three, and has become an inspiration to women around the globe.

Hazel is open about coming from a rough childhood, telling her inspiring story on how she went from:

  • Growing up poor
  • Living in a rat-infested household, in a dangerous gang neighborhood
  • Living on food stamps
  • Putting higher education on the back burner

To:

  • Having higher education even in her late 20’s
  • Having a bestselling book on Amazon
  • Having several multimillion-dollar businesses
  • Flying in private jets
  • Having more than enough quality time for her family
  • Learn how having big goals, leveraging on the available opportunities, and surrounding yourself with good people can bring major changes in your life.
Show Notes

Hazel Ortega is a firm believer that sharing your story can change the world, that a fish can’t grow big in a small pond. She shares that it wasn’t that she wanted to be a psychologist, but that she didn’t want to be homeless that she went to high school and college as a mom of three. Hazel and Lesley talk about replacing “goals” with “miracles,” changing your environment, and celebrating the small wins.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • The challenge of staying in the mindset of your choice
  • It takes an effort to build a community
  • Change the world by sharing your story
  • Things didn’t change for Hazel until she changed her environment
  • A fish can’t grow big in a small pond
  • You’re not going to feel the same five years from now as you do today (and that’s a good thing!)

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Transcript

INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan
Hello, how are you? Welcome back to Be It Till You See It. Ah, I just got off of the interview with Hazel Ortega, let me just tell you if there was never, if there was ever a Be It Till You See It story you had to listen to this, this is the one. This woman grew up in just grew up in a city that like many of us could never imagine or dream or picture. And it was hard times, I mean, she didn’t get her high school diploma till she was 30. So spoiler alert there. And now she is I just hung up with her and she’s gone off to a trip to Peru, and then she’s going to Croatia. So, she is literally going to tell you how to Be It Till You See It. She’s got a great vision for how this is, her tips are absolutely doable. And it’s a challenge to live in this mindset. But it’s like, every time I hear her story, I can’t think of another way to live. I can’t think of another mindset to have, it just makes so much sense. So if you have been struggling if you’ve been like, “Well Lesley, these stories you keep bringing on they’re great, but I’m from a place that this doesn’t happen. People don’t leave my town like that, or, you know, I’m I’m in this relationship. And I this is how it’s gonna be and I can’t see a logical way out of it.” Well, we’re screwing logic this week, and we are talking about miracles. And so, I I really hope you listen to her whole story here and dive into the thing she’s offering you there in the show notes below. And you know, do me a huge favor and let Hazel and I know how this episode changed your life or changed your mindset even for a moment. Because I think it’s, I think it’s like a really great way if we could just make this the other way that everyone’s dreaming. Just imagine where the world would be and all the things that we’re doing. So, anyways, y’all Hazel Ortega is with us this week. Oh, and also so exciting. If you love Joanna Vargas from episode one, I met this woman through Joanna Vargas. And so side note, just something I’d say, ask people you love to know about people they love. Because something I’m doing here in Las Vegas is asking people who I really love and enjoy who they love and enjoy because I’m building a network because I didn’t have one when I moved here. I knew a couple people very tangentially like spent a little bit of time with them and we both loved Carbon 38 and everything has it’s hard to meet people, it’s hard to create a community, I’m not saying it’s easy. So you know please know that I understand that that effort. But if you want to meet awesome people ask the awesome people you know who they love and your your awesome community and network will grow. So here we go after this message, Hazel Ortega.

Lesley Logan
Hey, Be It pod listener, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for being you. Thanks for watching our podcast here on our YouTube channel. I’m just so grateful for you. I have a big favor, and I’m, I mean, like, let me just say, “It’s not easy for me to ask for help,” but I need your help. I’m on a mission, I really want to change as many lives and help people be it till they see it all over the world, and I need your help. We have been so grateful. The amount of downloads our podcast has had in just a short period of time is, it’s amazing. That’s insane. However, we also need more written reviews. So, and specifically on Apple. So even if you are watching here on YouTube, or you listen on Spotify, or you listen on Google Play, Apple podcast is where everyone looks to see which podcasts they should send people on for interviews. And, so we need lots of reviews to be there like a hundred written reviews. So, big huge favor if you could use the link below, go write a review, rate us, give us all the stars you love and let me know. Screenshot it, send it to me on a @be_it_pod. I just want to thank you for the bottom of my heart. We are truly, truly can’t do this podcast without you. And, I’m just so grateful that these words hit your ears. And if you wouldn’t mind writing us that review that would be amazing. And, I will be so forever grateful. Thank you and now here’s the podcast you wanted to listen to.

Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and business fitness coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

EPISODE

Lesley Logan
Hello, Be It Till You See It listeners. I’m here with Hazel Ortega. Y’all, this woman I cannot wait for you to hear her story. I’m so honored because I know it already. But she was introduced to me by Joanna Vargas. You’ll remember from episode one. So if you love Joanna and the force she is then you are going to love Hazel. And so here is Hazel! Hazel tell everyone who you are and what you’re up to. And just thank you so much for being here today to shine your light and share your story.

Hazel Ortega
Thank you, Lesley, thank you so much for letting me do that, right? That’s my number one thing is to change the world by sharing my story. And who I am, I’m a I’m a mom. I have a 23 year old daughter who just graduated college and is a registered nurse. Yes …

Lesley Logan
That’s amazing. The world needs more nurses. That’s amazing.

Hazel Ortega
Yes, I’m very happy that I created this human being to contribute to the planet. And my story, my story started off really rough growing up in the poorest neighborhood of Los Angeles. Not just poor but you know, gang members and growing up on welfare. My parents were immigrants from Mexico didn’t even speak English. And having education was something that was not a priority. Surviving our neighborhood was (Lesley: Yeah) not ending up in what most people would end up in in those conditions like becoming pregnant as a teenager, becoming a drug addict, going to jail, getting into gangs or dying, (Lesley: Yeah) basically. So I that’s the way I grew up. Ah …

Lesley Logan
Yeah, I mean, I think it’s so interesting to hear you point out, like, that, that was… the thing was surviving. Because I think a lot of people who didn’t grew up in that kind of environment, do not… do misunderstand, like, “Well, why don’t they just go get a job?” And it’s like, well, it’s really not that easy when when everything around you is like, it’s when you’re in that Maslow’s hierarchy of needs of like, “Where’s your next meal? Where are you staying for the night?” Like that kind of stuff. It is hard to see a future ahead. And so did you, so can you tell everyone like, did you, did you go to college? I mean, your daughter went or like when what was your next step? Like, how did you get out of that neighborhood? Because I mean, if you’re watching on YouTube, y’all she is living in a beautiful house. So with a gorgeous red hat. So like, how did you go from that environment to where you are now?

Hazel Ortega
Yeah, well, when you say that environment, it means like an 800 square foot apartment, one bedroom, not having a future, defaulting into getting a job, not a job I love but a job because my cousin works there, right. And I need to pay my bills. So it was never a conversation of creating my life and going in that direction. I never had that conversation with anybody. (Lesley: Yeah) So, how did that that all change? I got a job because my cousin was working at a law office. And she brought me and she was the receptionist, and the attorney interviewed me, I probably was not going to get the job. He even asked me what gang I was from, because he could tell that I had like this tough, you know, demeanor, and like I know a lot of things from the streets. And he did ask me that about the gangs. And he knew where I lived. He asked me, you know, what Avenue I was living on, because the gang is a lot is called The Avenues. (Lesley: Yeah) And he did end up hiring me because, not only did my cousin recommend me for the job, but I also had a mentor in high school who was a judge in the workers compensation arena, and who this attorney knew. And because of that recommendation, I was able to start work at this prestigious law firm. (Lesley: Wow) And that’s where everything changed. And Lesley, you know, the last time I was talking to your people, I was telling them, that things didn’t change for me until I changed my environment. (Lesley: Yeah) Right …

Lesley Logan
That is that is the biggest key. I’m studying like, human behavior, with BJ Fogg. And he has said, the study show, if you don’t change your environment it doesn’t matter what you do, doesn’t matter if you go back to school, or if you lose the weight, or if you get the gold job. If your environment is the same, you won’t … you won’t get the benefits of those things.

Hazel Ortega
Yeah, exactly. Like people tell me, “Oh, you were a big fish in a small pond.” I said, “No, a fish can’t grow big in a small pond.” You have to change your pond. And getting this job at this prestigious law firm was a different pond.

Lesley Logan
Oh, that is… I mean, I felt like Oprah, that’s a tweetable moment. It’s not… a fish can’t grow big (Lesley laughs) in a small pond, you have to get a bigger pond. That’s amazing. (Hazel laughs) Yeah. So so you know, you got this job. And I mean, so many people listening this are doing a job that maybe they got because someone recommended you should do this, or you should do this. And I think I think a lot of people, even in growing in environments that are not as tough as yours, are not living their purpose. They’re they’re doing what someone said they should do, or like, here’s a job you can have. And so how did how did you? What was it like at that that law firm? And like what what was the next step? What was that launching pad for you?

Hazel Ortega
First, I’ll tell you, I got the job. And I felt out of place, like I didn’t belong. And I worked with these attorneys that were making millions of dollars a year. It’s such a prestigious law firm, right? And celebri… we represented celebrities who were injured while filming, which was really interesting, and NFL players. And I always felt really shy like I was not on the same level as them like there’s a difference there. And I kept working there. Eventually I ended up getting injured on that job. The attorney that I worked for who encouraged me to go back to school because of my injury and just because I should. I didn’t even have a high school diploma when he hired me at 24 years old. A couple years later, I became an injured worker. The attorney tells me now, “You really need to take school seriously. You need to go back to school,” and I start to go back to school and I earned my highest diploma when I’m 30 years old, and then I kept going.

Lesley Logan
Wow. You know, that’s just like proof that it’s never too late to go back. And then also, what, I mean I don’t know this attorney, I don’t know the whole story, but I feel like what a nice guardian angel, like just like a little, “Tap, tap, tap… You should really go back to school.” And then like, you really have to take your education seriously. So you left the law firm after you got your high school diploma or what was what what did you do for work after after you went to high school?

Hazel Ortega
So, I kept working with the attorney while I got my high school diploma and my college credits. I still I stayed there. And then eventually he looked at me and he said, “Oh, my God, I realized that you’re go… you’re going to leave me,” because I was on track to become a psychologist. And, yeah, this is something that he recommended for me to do. Once I didn’t know what to do. Like I got, I finished my associates degree. And he asked me, “What are you going to do next?” I had no idea what I was going to do next. And honestly, I was done. I didn’t want to keep going to school. And he told me, “You you’re going to be a professional, you better think about what you want to do.” And I was like, “Oh my God, it was so hard to go to school.” Honestly, I worked from nine to five as a secretary, I went to school from seven to 10 at night, and I went to weekend college, Saturday and Sunday … (Lesley: and you had a daughter)

Lesley Logan
And your three kids (Hazel: three kids at home, three young kids at home.) Wow! Wow! So okay. So I know the moms listening to this are like, how did you do that? Like, did you have help? Because I know childcare is really expensive and hard, like what… And also like, what was going through your mind that you made that a priority? Because that takes a lot of effort to make sure that you are you able to work, go to school and have your kids taken care of.

Hazel Ortega
Yeah, and honestly, that losing the job that I currently had, where the where I was injured, was my push because I thought if I lose this job, I’m not going to get another job paying as much as this does. And mind you I was only getting paid $15 an hour is like I’m I’m afraid of losing this job. So I have to educate myself. So I get another job comparable to this job or better. (Lesley: Yeah) It wasn’t I wanted to be a psychologist. It was because I didn’t want to be homeless that I went back to school. Right? I didn’t was not thinking of being a professional or, or living in a pimp daddy mansion. Like I didn’t have those dreams. Okay, those dreams, I incrementally grew and grew. (Lesley: Yeah) So, I went to school and one of the things Lesley that a lot of people I realized is that they feel that the way you feel today is the way you’re going to feel five years from now and that’s not true. Along the way you add to your self esteem, based on what you’re up to, right. Unless you don’t grow and expand yourself, then you’re going to have low self esteem in five years as well. There’s no reason why your future should look any different. (Lesley: Right) If you personally read books, you change your environment, friends, and you learn about whatever it is that you’re interested in, and go back to school and you start making changes, you’re going to be a completely different person five years from now you will be and that’s what happened to me.

Lesley Logan
So, I couldn’t agree more because I think often … well, I said this, I’ve said this before, I’m not the first person to say it. But like we overestimate we can do in a day and we underestimate we can do in a year or five years. And I think, you know, we do take for granted, we think if we’re feeling good, we’re going to feel this good and five years, well, if you’re doing the things you said you’re gonna feel better, you’re gonna feel even better. But if you are doing nothing, if you just stay status quo, you’re gonna start to feel behind because the world’s going forward, you know, so, um, so I love that you said that but so you you went to school, you change that. And then because I because I know the story and how it goes, I’m just gonna, how did you go from like, feeling like paycheck to paycheck and like being in school to being where you are now? Like, what were, what was the what was the impetus to even getting out of like, just doing the nine to five.

Hazel Ortega
Okay, so I finished college, and I became a psychologist and I got a job, right? And so the college taught me how to do a new job and it was great. And it taught me how to think differently, and especially in psychology, think different and help others, right? So I’m learning that I can actually think differently and becoming educated gave me tools to react differently to the problems I was having in life. The problems never changed. I just react different because I learned to do better. So I got a job as a psychologist. I was still bouncing checks. I didn’t work on that part. The …

Lesley Logan
Well, you didn’t go to financial school, you went to psychology school, so you know. (Hazel: Exactly)

Hazel Ortega
So, I was still bouncing checks negative in my account and feeling really like, I was going to live a life of poverty until the rest of my life and and Lesley, I’ll tell you this, that people that don’t have any money and people that have a lot of money can both have equal fear of not having enough money. (Lesley: Yeah) It’s really as a mindset and something that everybody should work on. You could be, you could have a million dollars in the bank, and then feel like you’re, you know, paying for dinner. And then people are not pitching in like, like, they’re taking advantage of you, like you know …

Lesley Logan
Oh, 100 100%, that money mindset is so key because I mean, I know people who make millions of dollars, and they have the same fears that I do, and I’m not making millions yet. But, um, but like, you know, and I’m like, I like see that in them. And I’m like, “This is not something I want to grow with me. This, we need to take care of now.”

Hazel Ortega
Yes, and you can, you definitely can have freedom around money. So, what I did is I started to take personal development courses. And that is where everything changed exponentially for me, where I was starting to really learn about the way I think and why I think that way in and how can I think differently. And then you can have a mindset shift, like in a nanosecond, where once you see something new in a new way, you’ll never go back to see it the old way. So it behooves all of us to master ourselves to learn about ourselves, and look at life in whole new different ways that this is a personal development seminar, I had a coach. And so I think that’s really important for all of us to have coaches and mentors, because they see something in you that you can’t see for yourself and they hold the space. Right? And my coach asked me, “Where do you see yourself in five years?” At the time, I couldn’t think of anything that would be different in five years, then then what was happening in that moment. I still was the early stages of my personal development, and I call it my embryonic stage of personal development …

Lesley Logan
I love that so much, yeah, but I think, I think … like so many people don’t invest in a coach, because either they’ve never heard of one. Or even they may think they can’t afford it or don’t deserve it. So how did you like, how did you get to where you feel like, I’m gonna invest in this person?

Hazel Ortega
I didn’t actually invest in the personal development coach, that was something that was assigned to me. And that was my, probably my first exposure to having a coach, (Lesley: Okay, okay, got it) I’m having an ability, I became used to it. And then when I was done with the course, in my own personal life, I hired a coach for the first time for my business.

Lesley Logan
Got it. Okay, I see that, thank you for sharing that. Because I think sometimes people like you did stuff to get there to get, to where you could. And so this person asked you to see yourself in five years, you couldn’t do that.

Hazel Ortega
I couldn’t come up with anything, it was like the beginning, I was blocked, like kapow. And then I was, you know, very reasonable about everything at that time, in the sense of like, you know, based on my reality, like, what is, what’s going to happen in five years, and I thought, well, in five years, me… well, I’ll just be five years older. Like, there’s no reason why anything should be, you know, very different. (Lesley: Right) Oh, she, you know, she asked me that, and I still couldn’t come up with anything. So I’m sitting there, and she’s holding space for me. I’ll wait, you think about it, you know, and she gave me like, 10 minutes. And I knew I couldn’t get away with like, I don’t know. So I sat there and after a few minutes, I said, “Well, if I believe in God, and I believe in miracles, then what is possible for me in five years,” and that opened up this world that I didn’t have access to before I realized that I never dream. I’m all of us, a lot of us are mostly realistic. We’re trained in school to be realistic, to be logical, to … that, you know, two plus two is four, four plus four is eight. And that’s the way it goes expert, you know, you get success as you build on it. (Lesley: Yeah) And trying to be a millionaire. If you have no money in the bank, it doesn’t even seem feasible, or nobody else in your family has ever been a millionaire. It just …

Lesley Logan
That, that’s exactly it. If you’ve never seen it, it’s really hard to dream it. And if people around you are saying, “This is it, this is what you’re doing.” You know, like, cuz I definitely had those people in my family who were like, “Why, why would you do that?” Or like, “Don’t do that, because like, you could lose everything.” And it’s like, “Well, I don’t have a lot to lose. So I may as well cope,” you know, go for it. But like it’s hard if the people in your environment haven’t shown you that there. It’s okay, it’s safe to dream and it’s, it’s powerful to dream.

Hazel Ortega
Absolutely. I mean, I’m divorced now. But when I was married, I changed jobs. And my my husband at the time, was telling me, “Why you changing jobs. What if, what if that new job, it doesn’t work out and then you’re gonna lose this other job that you have, and you’ve been there for so long.” Unlike, what the other job pays more is it, I’m gonna have a better position. And I explained it to him and he was very scared for me. (Lesley: Yeah, yeah) and I did it anyway. But yes, he, you know, I could have thought to myself back then, like, “Oh, he’s keeping me down, or he doesn’t believe in me, he’s always being negative.” But now as I got my training these people in our lives, which are our mothers, our fathers, brothers and sisters, and spouses, and significant others, and everybody, they’re afraid for us, right? They create these fears for us. And we’re, you know, our we have a mustard seed of confidence. And we’re like, you know, (Lesley: Yeah) you need a little bit that we have, and then they come in, they make us feel like, like, we should be very scared, and don’t do it. (Lesley: Yeah) … Feel the fe… you know, feel the fear and do it anyway. These people love us. They… I’m very clear about that. They don’t want to keep us small, but what they want to do is keep us safe. Yeah, don’t lose everything. You’re gonna lose your money, don’t invest in that, you’re gonna lose this you all your time, you’re gonna get sick. … so that’s you’re free.

Lesley Logan
I I love that. You said that because we have a mantra to Be It pod. It’s like “Do It Scared.” And so there’s like all this, these clothes, this merch, like, “Do It Scared” because people ask all the time, like, “How did you do that? I’m so scared.” Like, “I’m scared all the time. I’m just doing it scared.” Like, I don’t even like sometimes like in Cambodia, I try to learn to drive when I’m in Cambodia, on a moped, moped. And everyone drives in different, like, they’re just going there’s no streets like lanes, you just drive and you make a left hand turn, you make it into oncoming traffic. And then when you when it’s safe, you merge over. And I literally just go, “Aaah,” as I’m going in, I don’t know. Somehow, it lets me like peddle. (Lesley laughs) So I love that you said that. So, I also just wanted to go back to you. So you came up with something to, you dreamt something up in five years, because you believe like, if I believe in God, if I believe in miracles, and I believe this. I think so many people are like you that they ha… they get stuck, they have a block, they’re afraid. I do a lot of coaching people and I’m like, “Where do you want to be in 10 years?” And they’re like, “I don’t I don’t even know I want to be next month.” And I’m like, and then they’re embarrassed by it. But that’s actually not abnormal to not be able to think that far ahead. So I’m so glad you said that because a lot of people would just assume the like, “Okay, I wrote down I’m gonna do in five years,” and you had a, you had a block. So how did what did you write down? How did you get past that block?

Hazel Ortega
Well, you know, your brain is this beautiful organ that keeps you alive. However, it also keeps you small and in fear, right? And so if you understand your brains, the way the brain works, you can outsmart your brain, right? And so when I said, you know, when I heard that question, I couldn’t think of anything. I mean, I couldn’t think of anything for five years. But when I said miracles, well, your brain is not, it’s not programmed to make a miracle happen. So it allowed me to have that vision. That’s why I think the miracle mentality miracle mindset is really important to to establish, because then you can really make miracles happen. You …

Lesley Logan
So you’re replacing right miracles for goals, like your like, you put miracles in there. Because then your brain isn’t like, “Oh, that’s not actually logistically possible in five years.” … Because by miracle your brains like, “Okay, I’m willing to leave room for that.” …

Hazel Ortega
Yeah. Imagine your brain, you put in there that you want to have a million dollars, your brain is faster than the calculator. It’s already like, “No, not gonna happen.” (Hazel laughs)

Lesley Logan
It’s so true. It’s so true. You know, I’ll think of things I’m like, “Oh, I wanna do that from 40.” And then immediately my brain is like, “Well, where does that money come, where it’s going?” And it’s like, it’s like, “No, stop. You don’t have to worry about that. It’s happening from 40.” And I’m going to insert miracles, insert miracles, instead, I love it.

Hazel Ortega
Yeah, do that. And even like, you could say, “I want to be in love. I want to have the love of my life.” But you’re married to a differ… to a person that you don’t believe that that’s the person, you know and you absolutely can fall in love and have the love of your life with the current relationship that you have even if you think like this person cannot change this, you know, miracles do happen, give people chances, and you’ll see it, you’ll absolutely see it. I wish I had this information on when I was a lot younger, my life would look even different, more different, and I would have avoided a lot of pain and suffering. But it’s never too late and I’m still young. (Lesley: Yeah) You know, (Hazel laughs)

Lesley Logan
You’re still… well, we’re also young. I mean, I mean, people are living to a 120 these days. So, okay, everyone’s dying to know, what was on the thing and five years ago, what did you get all of it?

Hazel Ortega
Okay, so I said, I wanted to have a life that look… like I was always on vacation …

Lesley Logan
Well, you do. You look like you’re about to like go out to the pool right now. (Lesley laughs) Yeah

Hazel Ortega
… now at my house. (Lesley: Yeah) I’m, I’m living my dream every single day. I’m always in awe of how I manifest this into my life. But I’m always creating my life, right? So I could for the first time ever I created that I had a like, look like I was always on vacation. I said, I wanted to have a $3 million plus business. At the time, I did have my own business. I started it from my garage. Well, I grew it to be the largest company in California that offers counseling for injured workers. Then I said, I wanted to find the love of my life. I didn’t even believe in that. I thought it was something you know, that was for people on television, because I, I didn’t even see it in, see it in real life. My mom married and divorced many times and I was already divorced at this time also. So, I didn’t believe that you could have the love of your life. And if you did, it wasn’t sustainable. So it was all faced, not based on fear. I had fear but everything. (Lesley: Yeah) I also said I wanted to fly in private jets and I wanted to live in a pimp daddy mansion, the kind where music videos are filmed. … I’ll know that I had none of it at the moment when I said it.

Lesley Logan
Right. And so are people filming music videos in your pimp daddy mansion? Is it happening?

Hazel Ortega
Yes, it definitely happening and Grey’s Anatomy is looking at my home to do a season here, filming here, (Lesley: Oh my gosh, stop!) (Lesley laughs) I tell you, I can’t even invent this stuff. Like, I think you know, you when you create the life that you want. You not only get the life that you said you want, but you also get a bag of chips. That means it’s even better than you created it. And you think it can’t get better, but always can get better.

Lesley Logan
I agree. I everything I’ve ever achieved that I wanted. It came with more than I expected and, and it’s and it’s true. Y’all, if you’re listening, like, “How does she know the stuff.” So, we had Hazel and as an agency, an agency for a webinar. And after a year you did your talk on, “How to like create your miracle mindset.” Brad and I went for a walk and I had been struggling with like, because I’m building a business to sell. Y’all, I’m not gonna say which one but one of them I’m building to sell and I kept getting stuck on like, “Who’s buying this? Like, who would buy this?” You know, not in like a negative, it’s not worth buying because we have hundreds of members. So it’s, you know, it’s, it’s everything people want, but like, “Who would who would buy it someday.” And on the walk, I like got so clear on exactly who would buy it, how much they’re buying it for all the things and I was like, and it was so funny because immediately Brad had that his brain was like, “What I was like, it’s miracle time”. It’s miracle tell your brain, this is a miracle. This is not I got, this a miracle. And it was so fun and we have like got a dream board going on. So you can see it all the time. It’s a really, I’m really excited about. So, I can’t wait to get all that in a bag of chips, like, it is really fun.

Hazel Ortega
You know, follow it up, follow it up with okay, so you created who is going to buy it and how much they’re going to pay for it. Okay, so then and then what? What was was going to change for you. Now you’re going to have more freedom. Now you’re going to travel, you know now what, you now you’re going to have a nonprofit. What benefits are there to selling your company? Like all of what your life is going to look like when you sell it? (Lesley: Ah) That’s … golden, the next golden step …

Lesley Logan
Okay, done. Don’t worry, I’ll do that homework this weekend … (Lesley laughs) (Hazel: And that’s so much fun) Oh, it’s so much fun. Hazel, you’re so fun. I just I’m so go… I really when I heard your story, I was like, “We have to have her on” because I just know that there are people sitting there listening and they’re stuck. And they keep getting logistical on like logical on their on their things. And, and so they keep listening to inspo. And they’re like, “Well, didn’t works for them, didn’t work for me.” And I just had to have you on because like, you are a representation that like, if you put it out there and then and then this is this is like a fun thing. So people are like, so for the people who are being logical. You put this out, you put these miracles out. What is the first thing you did to get the ball rolling on the miracles?

Hazel Ortega
Okay, so, I did these things, subconsciously, I didn’t have like a to-do list that would make these things happen. I crea… I created my vision right in my brain. And then I drew it and it become to my house, my drawing is framed and it’s in my dining room. And you can see this, it’s like, “One day is going to be in the museum of Hazel,” right? (Hazel and Lesley laughs) (Lesley: Yes.) And my statue is gonna be there too. (Hazel laughs)

Lesley Logan
Absolutely, I hope it’s wearing a red hat. (Hazel laughs)

Hazel Ortega
Okay, so, I drew it and then what happened is that in my real life, I didn’t have those things, right. So, I one of the things I also said I wanted was a relationship with my sisters that looked like we were in heaven. At the time when I drew it, I was fist fighting with my sisters. So, I did not have that relationship with them. I was a psychologist, fist fighting with my sister who was a police officer at the time. Okay …

Lesley Logan
So it’s gonna be a TV show, just so you know, this will be a movie. (Hazel laughs)

Hazel Ortega
Yes. And so, what I did was, once I saw it in my brain, when I what I saw in real life was not that and it made me take action. So in the area of money, I took a course, the Dave Ramsey course, I was tired of being broke and paycheck to paycheck. So, I took a Dave Ramsey course to bu… to budget, to learn how to budget, okay, and I even need budget anymore. But by …

Lesley Logan
… now, so you know, probably is very helpful.

Hazel Ortega
It was very helpful. And I created a group of women who also wanted to get out of the paycheck to paycheck barely (Lesley: Yeah) making that and start to budget. And then what’s your budget? Why do you want to budget? Well, I want to budget because I want to save money. Okay, why don’t want to save money? Well, because once I save money, that I want to invest money, I want my money to grow. (Lesley: Yeah) So, I had like the why, why, why? (Lesley: Yeah) became everything’s I was doing … So, and then I named the group of Millionaire Women of Whittier, the city that we live that, and the women in the group were very uncomfortable that I named it women, millionaire women, and they were like, “We don’t want to be millionaires.” I’m like, “How could you say that?” You know, and so I’m like, “It’s just a game. It’s just, you know, like for fun?” Well, they were not liking it right now. I started a new group called Billionaire Women’s Club. And that one, too, I invited one of my friends to it, and and she’s one of my wealthiest friends I have. And she said, “You know, I don’t want to be a billionaire.” I’m just like, “What is this all about?” …

Lesley Logan
Have you heard of Rachel Rodgers? She has these “Shmellies” like she millionaires? (Hazel: Oh, no) yeah, she calls these “Shmellies.” I don’t it’s a group that she created. Because she, she wrote a book like, “Everyone’s a Millionaire,” or “We Can All Be Millionaires” or something like that. So it’s, I think, I mean, that’s a whole different topic for a different podcast, Hazel, that we could have all these women on to talk about, like, what are women afraid of about being millionaires and billionaires, and I think it’s a lot of like, stuff that we were raised with the patriarch. So you know, but I think it’s great, the work you’re doing, you’re doing the Lord’s work there. Because it’s like, if we can get more and more women to aspire and believe that they can be millionaires or billionaires, like, you know, just imagine what the little girls growing up, get to see as possible, you know, their miracles will be huge. They’ll be bigger than ours.

Hazel Ortega
I’m telling you, so I learned this technology, right. And now, I, in the last 10 years, I just celebrated my 10 year business anniversary. And, number one, I am still in business, which I’ve you know, statistically most businesses do not do not last the first five years, (Lesley: Yup) then it’s it’s a multi million dollar business. So that statistically, is remarkable. (Lesley: Very right. Yeah) It’s a miracle. I’m a woman business owner, a miracle, I’m a minority with miracle, you know, and I’m in workers comp… niche where there’s, there’s, it’s a miracle. (Lesley: Yeah) And so I’ve been able to help 40,000 injured workers with through our counseling to train and get jobs, they love, 40,000. So because I learned this technology, and I changed my life. Now 40,000 people were impacted. And who knows …

Lesley Logan
Yeah, you’re chaning them in bigger ways. So I mean, y’all, I hope you heard that. Like she, she did all this miracle work, miracle mindset. And then she took some action, which is possible. She’s like, “Okay, if I want to get better with money, I need to actually know how to be better with if, I want to have money, I better know how to use it. If I want to have relationship with my sisters, I better work on that” like so, I think that’s really cool. I mean, Hazel, have to have you back because I could just keep talking to you. But I feel like I’m really excited to go back to my journal and my picture and add to it. Okay, Hazel first before we get to the Be It steps. We’re letting people get a pen and paper. How can people follow you, find you get to know, you work with you?

Hazel Ortega
I’m on Instagram, @hazelortega_official is my Instagram and a lot of people reach out to me there and ask me questions and everybody can feel free to do that. My website is themasteryofmiracles.com and I have a free visioning guide there that you can use to create your 10 year vision.

Lesley Logan
Oh, I love it. We’re gonna put all that in the show notes. So super easy for everyone to just link on through, get that get that freebie and also get mastering your miracles. And definitely follow her on Instagram because it’s so fun. I follow you and it’s it’s it’s inspiring. It’s really, it’s really fun to watch everything that you’re doing. Okay, I asked everyone this, because I think it’s great to be inspired. But take action is like my thing because messy action is where you know, all the good stuff comes from it allows you to be scared and do it scared because it’s messy, don’t be perfect. Perfect is boring. So, what would you say to someone who’s listening to this? Like, what’s the first thing? What’s one or two things that they could do right now to have a miracle mindset?

Hazel Ortega
I have top three things, (Lesley: okay) okay. … three things, even though my book has 15 things. (Lesley: Okay) Top three things right now, anybody can do wherever they are in their lives, is create the vision for your life 10 years from now, based on miracles, so miracles have nothing to do with you. It’s completely to do with the divine. But you have to create that coming from your heart. What do you want in 10 years? And go big, big (Lesley: Yeah) because … like, you can’t ask for small stuff. (Lesley: Yeah) I mean, this guy did everything around us, right? So, go big. God wants you to have the first test tickets. He wants you to have the love of your life. And he wants you to have everything that you want and the bag of chips, okay? So don’t go, don’t ask for small things. You have a big God, though, that’s one. And then number two, change your environment. So like those people that Lesley mentioned, and I mentioned that are naysayers. That’s fine. You don’t have to get rid of them. But you do need to find another environment to spend more time there. So if you want to have a successful business, that’s over a million dollars, then find the group of those people and hang out with that group. If you don’t know anybody in that group, Google them. I’m mentored by JLo. Okay, she doesn’t know that but she mentors me. (Hazel and Lesley laughs) …

Lesley Logan
That’s amazing! I want to have like, you need to have like a … like a sticker or when you put those on the bumper sticker. It’s like mentored by JLo.

Hazel Ortega
That’s right. That’s who mentors me … JLo, Oprah and Jesus Christ. That’s what mentors me. So … (Lesley: It’s a great mentorship group) not do that. And then your third, is celebrate your small wins, you, well, we are always evolving and expanding. So our goals change and grow. And then if you’re always just changing, you’re going up in it and up in it, then you never feel like you quite get there and that you’re successful that (Lesley: Yeah) you’ve been successful. So celebrate the small things and if it is like opening your second location, then celebrate that you even had that creation of that thought, “Wow, I first I never even thought I could have one business. Now I’m thinking of a second business,” celebrate the thought, celebrate with your friends.

Lesley Logan
You are 100% accurate on that. I couldn’t agree more. And there’s so much studies on behavior science that like, “Celebration is so key,” our brain pays attention to what we’re excited about. The CEO for Pink, she, I just see her in an interview, and she was going in to an FDA approval thing for their, their product. And it was like they got rejected the first time, which was like, just so scary. And they went in they actually appealed it. And the day before the appeals where they had to be like ready to answer all the questions, they partied, they celebrated before. And so it is something that is so key. And y’all she sold that business for $15 billion. So and then got it back. Anyways, that’s another story. But like miracle, this is the thing. Miracle mindset is like so so. Oh, we could just keep talking but I just want to … do you have more things today. Sorry.

Hazel Ortega
You’re really advanced there because now you’re saying, “pre Party,” which I love that. And I was saying celebrate. You know when you …

Lesley Logan
It’s a thought. Yeah. And I’m like, “I’m like party before?” Sold! (Lesley laughs)

Hazel Ortega
I love it. Yes, yes. That’s the advanced version. (Lesley: Yeah) … we’re where we’re at, we’re beginners, where we are creating a vision. Which we’re adding a new environment and celebrating the small wins.

Lesley Logan
Celebrate the small wins. I’m, I am so about that when OPC we just I like say just celebrate even logged in and press play. Even if your kids took you off your mat, or your dog went crazy, just celebrate that you actually open your computer, you logged in, you press play, you skipped all the websites and all the things that could have gotten you there. And that is worth celebrating because your brain will want to find ways to come back to that party. So Hazel, these are such great tips and also just an incredible inspirational story that that I can’t wait to, I’m so glad I got to share it because it’s really amazing. I’m grateful that Joanna introduced us. Thank you so much for being here. everyone listening please do me a huge favor, screenshot this tag @hazelortega_official, and @be_it_pod with your takeaways. Because the thing is, is if you’re believing this way and you’re dreaming this way and you get your friend to do it, and they’re friends to do it then we stop having people who are scared all the time around us telling us we, we can’t do it. (Hazel: It’s very very true.) Thank you. Thank everyone for listening. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast! One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram! I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of ‘As The Crows Fly Media’.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
Kevin and Bel at Disenyo handle all of our audio editing and some social media content.

Brad Crowell
Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.

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