INTRODUCTION

Lesley Logan
Okay loves. So I’m super excited about this because we’re gonna get a little bit granular about your health. And I keep bringing in different people around the health and wellness strategy section because well, I love an inspiring story and I love hearing people’s journeys. But the other reality is, is like, there are other things that are keeping us or keeping you from being able to be it till you see it. And it’s not just access to a dream or access to inspiration, it could be actually something going on in your body, that no matter what your morning routine is, no matter how much you meditate, no matter no matter how many self development books you read, or, or journals you do, or visualizations you do that actually, you could do all of that and still not so optimal. And there are different ways to figure that out. And today’s guest Jessica Brothers, she is going to explain that to you. And it’s really inspiring. I know for myself, I feel fired up about this information, I feel like oh, there’s an… there’s a possibility of an answer right around the corner. And I don’t have to do any more guesswork. And I share that because, you know, you can try all the different diets in the world, but like, at some point, you’re gonna want to just know what’s going to work best for you. And you’re gonna hear from Jessica, how they actually do know what worked best for you. And there are there is information out there and there is support out there and you don’t have to live like this anymore. And you don’t have to trade your health for time in your future, you don’t have to you can there’s another way, there’s a better way and so thank you for being here. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. We could not do this without you. And if this podcast is helping you in any way please share this with a friend, leave us a review. Just so you know if you leave us a review you can email the [email protected] and you can get a free training on habits if you’d like, “Okay, Lesley I want a morning routine.” It’s like yeah, I have a habits course so you can have I’ll give it to you free which you leave a review from you either on Spotify or Apple or anywhere there’s podcast reviews that are taken. All right now without further ado, let’s just dive in with Jessica Brothers right now.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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EPISODE

Lesley Logan
Hey, Be It babe. All right. I’m so excited for our guests today, Jessica Brothers. I actually met her through another podcast guests, y’all loved Michael Unbroken. So we happen to be at a dinner where he was like, “I’m in town. I’m gonna see both of my friends at the same time.” And this really great time and I heard her story and what she’s doing I was like, oh my gosh, I have to have you on. So Jessica, can you tell everyone who you are and what you’re up to?

Jessica Brothers
Absolutely. First, Lesley, thank you so much for having me on your podcast. This is gonna be so much fun. (Lesley: Yeah, I agree.) Okay, so my name is Jessica Brothers. I am a 20 year Board Certified Integrative Nutritionist. I’m a human biologist geek for sure. I’ve been an Expert Health Strategist during that time as well. But my specialty is epigenetics. I like to dive deep at root causes of why people feel anything less than really, really great, which is mainly what I found in our epigenetics. So that’s mainly my mission in life is to help the world heal. That’s huge to me.

Lesley Logan
Okay, so I loved all of this, I think there was a test that I, that thank God happened when they did, because I’d probably be dead, or at least as not functioning, as well as I as I am today. But for the person who’s not aware, can you tell what epigenetics is?

Jessica Brothers
Yes, it’s your genes. And our genes are expressed and communicate, and they’re responsible for every function of our body to work. So that’s pretty much if if your genes aren’t expressing themselves, or communicating properly, our functions break down, when our functions break down, we get symptoms, and its daily symptoms. It’s not just the big diseases, it’s smaller things too, like migraines, or anxiety, or how we feel stress, or bouts of depression. It’s just even little things like that as well. Or it just pains in our hands.

Lesley Logan
Okay, hold on, because like, you just said some things that I think a lot of people will think that that might not be related to but you’re saying like anxiety, and the migraines and depression, these bouts? (Jessica: Yeah) This is this is crazy, because I think a lot of people think, “Oh, if I just get a job, that’s less stressful.” Like, yes, maybe do that, too. But like some of that can be, could be in your genes?

Jessica Brothers
Oh, for sure. I mean, yes, your environment has a lot to do with how we feel stress, or can add stress, which will create different expressions in your genes as well. So yes, stress is everywhere in our life, but there is a healthy amount of it that we should always apply to our body. Because when we eat, it applies stress to our metabolism, but strengthens it. When we work out, we apply stress to our muscles, but it strengthens it. So take that into consideration. But how we feel stressed and are able to react to it. That variance can depend on how healthy your genes are. So yeah, if you feel stress or anxiety to a point where you have attacks, or it just overwhelms you, then there is some missing components in your body that aren’t functioning 100% and can be functioning better. And that comes that basically comes down to your expression of your genes for sure.

Lesley Logan
Okay, so, so then, like, if I have genes that are like, being sluggish not communicating. (Jessica: Yeah) How do we turn that, how do we like work them out and inspire them to get motivated? Like what is that?

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, great question. (Lesley: Is it self taught?) You’re gonna love this answer, too, because it’s our food, the 100% our food, actually, let me not say 100% is mainly our food, but it’s also our environment choices, and and our choices of the skincare products, the stuff we put on our body. So it is that it’s it’s environment choices, you know, externals and how we feed our body on the internal. So that’s that that combination depends on how healthy your genes are going to be. Yes, we’re born with our genes, but we are not destined to them. We can we can heal them, we have that ability. It all stems from food.

Lesley Logan
This is crazy. And for the lis… like some people already know my story, and I won’t go all into detail because it’s like 10 years long, but Jessica: So as mine. You and I both) Yeah, well, like, um, so definitely food, set off something in my system. And then and then I went to a vicious cycle of not knowing is going on in my stomach, which is causing stress, which then that helped me not sleep. And then then I wasn’t going through digestion, digestion. So then like, it was this vicious, I got down, to I was so bloated at the end of the day, that I looked like, I was nine months pregnant, I was sleeping 90 minutes to three hours a night and I was like, I can’t sleep. And then when I had tests done, I didn’t even think that this other stuff would come up with like just, “Tom what’s going on my stomach?” And he’s like, “So do you know that you have like, metal going on in your body? And it looks like you have a ton of like arsenic and cadmium were like through the roof.” And he was like, “Where are you living?” Like, I’m like, “I’m in an apartment right here. Like, what are you talking about? Like, so everyone lives. Why is no one else suffering from it?” But it’s like the way my genes dealt with that stuff and everything. So it’s so crazy how environment plus what we eat, and then the skin stuff? Yes, he he made me throw out a bunch of the shampoos and I had a switch to all these other things. And I was like, well, I’m not changing the lipstick, but I asked permission on that first. He’s as long as much shiny and glittery. We’re doing okay.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah. Okay, you know and choose choose your poisons, I guess. Because reality is we still want to live life and love the things that we do and have, you know, life bring us happiness. And, you know, I realized that I can’t eliminate plastics everywhere. I use plastics all the time. So and I do my absolute best with them. But that’s the one thing I don’t want to say I’m lenient on, I’m very aware of it. But everything else is very tight. Because I know that plastics are in my life. And so everything else in my skincare, my environment where they feed my body, my brain, my eyes, my ears, everything around me, I’m very particular on because I, I accept plastics in the way, you know. (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah. So, so the metals in your body. Absolutely. So at the top of our genes is what I call the mothership. Okay, the mother of the genes is called methylation, and I’ll go into that, but it is it is the processing of our system in our body that basically helps detoxify. So if your methylation was inconsistent, your body was building up all these toxins, which would result into you know, your result what what you were going through, for sure.

Lesley Logan
That’s crazy. That’s so interesting. Okay, so when, so first of all, were you always like, you’ve been doing for 20 years, I’m looking at you, there’s just no way like, you’re 30 years old. So, but like, (Jessica: Thank you) what would what was what got you into this? And then like, what was that journey like for you?

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, I mean, I was born for this. That is now looking back, I mean, I started my first bicep curls at nine years old. Like, let’s be real, Jessica was just being bred for this, you know, I was starting to collect health magazines to learn healthy eating at nine. I was working out in my living room, making my grocery list, telling my mom, I only want this food mom, you know, create my own meal plans. I mean, who does that at nine years old, in the 80s, by the way, I mean, this is wild. But then I got to my 20s, I was working out seven days a week, eating what I thought was healthy, I was gaining weight, I had negative body image, I had depression, like, I did not love myself. And I realized that my mindset needed some working on. So I started doing that and started learning more about nutrition, because that was always a journey for me. And as I realized how much you know, my mindset was important with with, you know, the physical things started kind of clicking and changing more. But then one day, I got really sick, like really sick. My stomach blew up. It lookedlike I was nine months pregnant with 104 fever for 10 days straight. I couldn’t even lift my head off the pillow, vomiting, couldn’t keep any food in, and then about 10 days later, I would be okay, I’d be able to walk by I felt like I wasn’t even here. I felt like I was in a cloud, a brain fog. I was getting out of body anxiety experiences. I was even afraid to drive my son around. He was just a baby. And so you know, three weeks later on the dot, it happened again, same exact symptoms, same exact sequence. So I went to the doctor, they told me it was the flu. I said no, this is not the flu …

Lesley Logan
… three times I’ve had it two times in three weeks. Like that’s like I mean …

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, exactly. Nobody else in my house was getting sick. And I knew I knew it wasn’t the flu than every other doctors said it was stress. Oh, this is just stress, you’ve had a lot of stress in your life. And like this is not stress. Maybe stress is aggravating this, but this is not stress, what is going on. And every three weeks I started tracking it about every three weeks on the dot, the same cycle would happen would last anywhere from five to like 11 days. And in between those cycles, I just I was walking zombie that couldn’t focus, do anything. And on top of it, I had my own business and the son that I was trying to raise. (Lesley: Yeah) Come to find out after over 20 specialists, I found naturopaths and you know, hippie doctors and I found out I had an autoimmune. So that’s what was happening. And I said to myself, “How can someone like me, who works out, eats right, feeds their mind good, develop an autoimmune? What is the reasoning in that?” Right?

Lesley Logan
Yeah. Well, and and like I think like, so many people would be like, if if it happen to Jessica like well the rest of us gonna like how, (Jessica: Yeah) you know what I mean? So like, (Jessica: Literally) yes, I understand that question. And some people would just go, “Okay, I have an autoimmune.” And you’re like, “Wait, hold on. I’ve been doing all the things. How did this happen?”

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, exactly. And so it made me dive really deep back in the human biology, and be like, okay, we do all these things to make us healthy. And we know healthy people who die of diseases. Like how did that person who never smoked, never drink, ran every single morning, die of a heart attack early. Like I started thinking about all these things. I’m like, “There’s got to be root reasons here. And I’m going to find it.” And that’s when I found epigenetics, how genes, how our genes express and how we I didn’t understand at the time, and there wasn’t a ton of research on how we could feed our body correctly. So that our genes would express in a manner that created a pathway of health instead of the pathway of disease that we were given from our parents and our ancestors. And that changed everything. I started healing.

Lesley Logan
This is so cool. I mean, I think people, I think you can be listened to as in like nodding along. You’re like, okay, I get it like, like, seriously, though, like, everyone in the same household is eating the same foods pretty much like when I was growing up, all of a sudden, like, I got into modeling. So I started eating a different way, my brother was trying to gain weight. So he is like, we’re all trying to eat different things. My mom was like, “This is crazy. There’s three different types of milk in the fridge.” You know, but like, actually, for some bodies, like different meal plans are what are necessary for optimal health. And this makes so much sense that it’s on a cellular level and a genes level, because like the person who I went through, he used to do this for NASA, for astronauts, like you don’t just send all the astronauts up with like some basic plan, they each have to have a specific diet to be up there for however many months so that they don’t get sick, and they can run optimally. And like, it shouldn’t just be for the astronauts, we should we could all live like this. (Jessica: Yes, yes.) So if somebody has to do this, like, what does this entail? Because now this sounds crazy, like, is it just blood test? Is it like, like, this is something obviously, you’re a specialist in this, you can’t just go to your regular doctor and go excuse me, “I would like you to test my genes today.”

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, most doctors aren’t even trained to read those labs, they have no clue what they mean. You have to go to an epigenetic specialist. Like myself, and it’s not even blood. It’s even more simple than that. We send out cheek swabs right to your door, it takes 60 seconds. You literally swab a cheek, swab a cheek but back in the envelope, send it off. It’s prepaid. That’s it. That is it. That is the start of your healthy journey.

Lesley Logan
Oh my gosh, every person who’s afraid of needles just like paid attention.

Jessica Brothers
Yes. Seriously, so simple. So simple.

Lesley Logan
This is crazy. So so so you, so you we’re, so you went through the school for this and now you do this. And how, how, what have you seen, obviously, your own body, you this changed your life? How long did it take to change your life? That was as a, do you still have this autoimmune disease? Like what where are you at with that?

Jessica Brothers
So my first instant result was within two weeks, my energy returned, my focus returned, the brain fog dissipated, that I remember clear as day what, night and day like, wow, just two weeks after my protocol, I, I’m like, “Oh, my gosh, this is so great.” And three months later, my body started changing. Like my life, I was so grateful, my life was given back to me. Like, I felt like me again. It was it was just so beautiful. And most people experience that within a shorter range of time, depending on what’s going on with them. Do I still have an autoimmune. I’m still working on the last bits of my gut, because damage happened so much in my gut, I have healed my processes, and gut is now being cleaned out. And I’m just about there. Because I had to, I had to literally learn everything, you know, and test everything on me too. It wasn’t just like, oh, this is what you do. And you’re gonna be healed in three months. But now I understand so much that when people come to me, within one year, I can get them feeling so good. And on that that road to optimal health, healing. Because I’ve been doing this for so long now. And I understand so much. And I have this beautiful team of experts that helped me bring all this information together of what they know and what I know. So expedites the clients experience. It’s just, it’s amazing.

Lesley Logan
See… thank you for sharing, because I think like some people I mean, like a year well, it’s not a magic pill. And it also didn’t take most of us who have gone through something. It’s you’ve been going through it longer if you’re listening to this and you’ve got some health stuff. You’ve been going through it longer than a year for sure, (Jessica: Yeah) for sure. And you are going through it before you even paid attention to it. And so you have been in this process a long time. And I like having gone and I still have stomach stomach health stuff that I’m really frustrated by, so I’m listening … there for my own personal benefit. But like, because I would give anything if I knew a year from today, I was going to feel better than I do right now, I would take that in a heartbeat. And I think we want things to be faster. But if we want them to be done in a way that lasts, they just, you’re literally like, you have to do like rebuilding the systems from the base. (Jessica: Yeah) So in your, in your many years of experience with like helping people with their fuel and, and their diets in their protocols. When people don’t do things like this, when people don’t get something specialized? How does that actually keep them from feeling like the best version of themselves? Like, what are they losing out on?

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, they’re, they’re literally losing out on health. Because every day that you go with feeling less than your optimal health, you are creating a stronger pathway to disease, I could look at someone’s genes and say, in 10 years, you’re gonna develop Parkinson’s. And by the time you’re this age, you’re going to have dementia. By the time this happens, if you keep at this level, this is what disease pathway of disease you’re creating. And it’s sad, because it’s all so preventable. But we’re not educated. And this isn’t the normal. And people think it’s too good to be true to be able to just take supplements, and be able to heal their body because we’re not taught this. So you’re missing out on your life.

Lesley Logan
This is crazy, because I feel like the way people talk about things like dementia or even Parkinson’s. It’s like, oh, it just happened to you. We don’t really know how that’s happening. (Jessica: That’s true.) But it’s true.

Jessica Brothers
It’s so untrue. Dementia is actually a type three diabetes, what happens is, our brain likes glucose. And if we eat too much of it, our brain has no place to store it. So what happens is, it builds up in these little crevices of your drinks, there’s no place for it. So you actually don’t lose your memories, you lose access to your memories, because it’s a buildup that cuts off, you know, the waves to go to your memories, if your memories are over here. And this is how this is the pathway access it. But there’s a big buildup of glucose, you lose access to it, it can’t reach your memories anymore. And so if you if you, if you understand that in your bodies on that pathway, you can prevent that from happening. Or you can slow it or even in some cases, you can reverse it and clean out that dementia and re access those memories. That’s how powerful this is.

Lesley Logan
It’s insane. So when you talk about a protocol, because people are like, “Okay, this now sounds like magic.” We’re talking like food, workouts, like, are we talking about supplements? What is what is like, is it a three part five part? What does it look like?

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, great question. So protocol, is raw materials, which is nutrition. It’s basically the usable form of our food. And I can explain that, but guest tools of working out meditation, because remember, it’s, it’s not only your food, but it’s your environmental factors, too. So when you get a good grip on both of those, you’re going to feel really, really good. And so what do I mean by raw materials and usable form? Well, the food we eat is, our body doesn’t when you eat an apple, your body’s not like, “Oh, an apple, I’m going to use this apple.” No, that’s not what works you know, you eat the apple, squeezes down the esophagus, it meets to your stomach and the acid start breaking it down to, you know, the enzymes and and basically, your cells start pulling it into them, and creates a catalyst for what’s called your methylation process. It’s the refining process, that your body takes all our food that we eat, and turns it into usable form raw materials, vitamins, minerals, micronutrients and delivers it to all 200 functions of your body. It’s our refining system.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, and then so many people’s if, if those if those organs aren’t functioning, then it’s not going to the right …

Jessica Brothers
That’s that’s when disease pathways to disease start happening. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And that’s why the qualifier food is so important. If you’re eating fast food all the time, but no micronutrients in it, then your functions of your body are not receiving any tools. (Lesley: Yeah) I mean, you wouldn’t build a house without without tools, right? I mean …

Lesley Logan
It’s gonna duct tape it all together and hope it stays.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah. And seriously, that’s, that’s what we’re doing to our bodies when we don’t feed it the proper nutrition.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. So you know, when people hear like proper nutrition, they hear things like that it can sound like expensive, like, because I mean, I remember growing up as a kid, my parents was like, so cheap for them to get the Taco Bell family deal because it was like 39 cent bean and cheese burritos, you know. With all the different people you’ve coached like, have you is there like, is this, is this like we’re now going to eat like everyone’s eating at Whole Foods and most expensive, like groceries? Or is it like, is there an affordable family plan of feeding yourself with the with the right fuel?

Jessica Brothers
Absolutely, I think I think there’s a huge misconception about eating healthy is expensive. I think that’s something that, you know, is spread around that we’ve adopted that I don’t feel is 100% true. Because if you think healthy is expensive, try being sick. Think about the doctor bills, a time out the work, the time away from your family, time period, you can’t buy time. What’s that look like when you’re laying in bed all the time? Or when you come to a place where you’re in the hospital, and you almost lose your life? Or you have to have organs taken out. And now you can’t function properly. You can’t run around with your kids. You can’t work anymore. And now you’re on disability. I mean, Lesley, you know what it’s like to be sick. (Lesley: Yeah) I mean, you think healthy is expensive. Money is not, expensive is not just money expensive is wasting your time, wasting relationships, wasting yeah, money too. And not only that, when you feed your body, the proper micronutrients, when your body is hungry, it’s not about volume, your body is not like, “Oh, give me this amount of food.” No, when your body is hungry, is sending out signals of, I need this vitamin, this mineral, this protein, this amino acid, it’s it has a list of what it wants satisfied. And those hunger signals may be shut off for a little bit. But they’ll turn back on, as soon as it’s not satisfied. Once it starts digesting the food and it’s processing. It’s like, wait a minute, I’m missing this and this and this, we better turn those signals back on and ask you for it. Well, we’re not taught that. We get through cravings because of biochemical processes become addictions and, and all this stuff we’re not taught until we look at our labs from our genes. And we know exactly what our bodies missing to function properly. That’s, that’s huge. And so one thing I’ve been vegan for over four months now, for research, I’ve eaten less than I ever have in my entire life, because I’m eating such nutrient dense food when I say I’m going vegan, I’m not doing like dirty vegan and I call it clean vegan, there’s no processed foods in there … Okay. It’s all a bunch of microgreens vegetables cooked and raw, lots of salads, a ton of different rainbow colored veggies. I’ve never eaten so less. And I’m not saying I’m malnutrition because I’m not because I’ve gotten stronger in the gym and I workout seven days a week. (Lesley: Yeah) I’ve gotten stronger in the gym, less inflammation, more energy, my blood pressure has gone down. The results I’m getting is amazing. And my cravings, and I was a food addict have diminished, like diminished.

Lesley Logan
You know, I remember when I was on an elimination diet, and I was on it for too long. So it was like definitely not something I (Jessica: Yeah …) I was like left on it because like every time I would enter food back in, I would get sick again. So like well just, I guess stay on that. And like this was a bad idea. But I will say, I after the first couple of weeks, like just getting off the sugar. Like literally sent me crying for four days. I definitely had, like a like I definitely love a good sugar. But I didn’t have the cravings. I would like it’s so interesting how I would eat my meals and I would feel satiated. And I would feel fueled and I could do I was doing two workouts a day then like I was doing a lot of stuff and I was very strong. So I am a little jealous because I’m like, maybe I need to look at that. But I’m not going to until I do a test with you, because I’m gonna find out what I’m supposed to do.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, and I’m not saying like the vegan diet is the way to go. (Lesley: Yeah) I think my point is that, my point is that when you have a nutrient dense nutritional intake, it, it definitely has a result and effect on you. I’m not saying I’m going to be vegan forever, either, because I love my steak. But most people don’t know this. And Lesley, you come from the fitness world. We’re told in the fitness world to eat a ton of protein. And so I was eating a ton of protein. But something I discovered a few years back was our body has the ability to turn protein into glucose sugar. So when you eat too much of it, you get those sugar cravings, it gets stored. And I thought that protein was the one macronutrient that couldn’t be stored in your body and that couldn’t be further from the truth. So

Lesley Logan
Yeah. I was just listening to a guy on Huberman about like you know protein, fat loss, glucose everything and what they actually, it’s actually very interesting. Yes, we do need a lot of protein, but there’s actually no benefit of having more protein than you need. And it’s, it’s basically like it’s like a gram for every pound you it’s like so it’s, it’s, it sounds like a lot, we’re like, wow, that’s a lot of protein for every pound you are or you want to weigh. So if you’re like trying to lose weight. But more than that, it’s just, it’s, it’s not satisfying your cravings. And it’s not being you’re not storing it for tomorrow in case you have less.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, and it’s so true. It’s so true and too much protein your body actually creates aging in your body. It does because it creates this like conglomeration around our cellular membranes. And so nutrition can’t get in and nothing can happen. And what happens is these proteins are aging our cells, and they die off faster than new ones are being made. And that’s how aging happens.

Lesley Logan
Okay, that’s so fascinating. So here’s what’s like, so interesting is how durable our bodies are, and how not. Like how people can live on diets to have zero nutrition forever and ever and ever. And also, how, just a simple of not enough of this thing, and too much of this thing can like, start shutting things down. And so it makes me just go like, geez, this would be like a full time job … (Jessica: Yeah, absolutely.) Like, with pe… like, how, how difficult is it to? I mean, I guess it’s probably a personal thing, like depend on how far off you are, how different your lifestyle is, from how you want it to be. But like, do you find that people have to, like, only pay attention to this all the time? Or is it just in the beginning as they get used to it? Like, how easy is this to incorporate into your lifestyle? For you it’s your job, but like for the average person, what have you seen?

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, it’s pretty easy, we make it as simple as possible. Because, again, I’ve been doing this for so long, I understand change is difficult, changing your lifestyle, changing your eating, it’s difficult, most people don’t want to do it. They don’t, because it’s a social thing. It’s a habit thing. It’s a family thing. And everything we do revolves around food. And it’s it’s hard to change. So I understand that. So we make it as simple as possible. That’s why we use supplements, we use supplements to help bring in the raw materials your body needs. So you can I don’t want to say you can do everything you’re still doing and still feel really, really great. But it’s gonna be enough of a catalyst for you to start feeling great to want to make better choices. And it doesn’t need to be perfect. That’s the thing. So it’s, that’s why we we’ve made it so simple. Because I used to be a meal plan and fitness coach and design all those things for people. And I understand how difficult it is. So I’m like, you know what, let’s just do the genetic testing. Because once you have that, it’s for life, that doesn’t ever change. Once you have it, it’s for life. Okay. (Lesley: Cool.) Once you know what your body needs, we got that. So we create that protocol, we understand what you need. So there’s no guessing work. There’s no elimination diets. Okay. (Lesley: Amazing) Which is difficult, it cuts all that out. So we see, we have your body respond to that protocol over a period of time. So all you got to do is take your supplements every day. And, and you’re going to notice changes in your body. And things are going to come up and we’ll be like, Okay, let’s take this out. Let’s bring this in. And it really is a very simple way for you to achieve your optimal health. And then you decide what you want to do from there.

Lesley Logan
I mean, my goodness, we should be doing this when people are kids. Like it should be like you’re born, by the way when they started to eat healthy food … Here’s the best food for bigger child. (Jessica: Yes, it’s never …) Just like, can you imagine like the le… I feel like it’d be like less tears and less cranky children out there.

Jessica Brothers
Alot less, ADHD that’s for sure. That is the methylation issue. Huge, huge. (Lesley: Interesting.) Yes.

Lesley Logan
This is, I mean, Jessica this is so fascinating because like I love bringing people on who have stories of how they’re being it till they see it and I love doing people on her like here’s why you can’t and it keeps coming like I keep bringing it back to health y’all because it is I know when I was sick like there was, it was I was barely able to keep the plates spinning let alone like add a new plate like so … like people go I’m gonna do this and I’m like, do I have the energy to do that? Like, I could only say yes to modeling gigs and auditions in the morning. If you and then also the shoot had to be before lunch because the moment because I could only make it so long before I had to eat something and the moment I started eating, the moment I didn’t fit in the clothes, the moment I could not model the thing that they would want, you know. (Jessica: Yeah) And then and so and then with like, for life like I would have one outfit that I could teach in the morning but as the day went on, despite your head to get bigger, you know because the legs look the same and so no one was knowing what’s going on in that sweatshirt. But like all of that was distraction from everything I get to do now because I have much better control over my health and I have energy levels to able to keep up with the things I want to do. And so, you know, all the inspiration and strategies in the world are great. But if you don’t have your health, you can’t do it. You can’t be it till you see it, you can’t do anything.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, it’s so true. Your health is everything. It’s the base of everything. Really, it’s so important.

Lesley Logan
We’re gonna take a quick moment, and then we’re gonna find out how people can find you, work with you, get to know more information about you.

Jessica Brothers
Yeah, love it.

Lesley Logan
All right, Jessica. Where do you like to hang out? Where can people get more information if this was intriguing for them, or they want to get more support?

Jessica Brothers
Absolutely. You can find me on pretty much any social media. It’s @jessicabrotherslife, if they can see my screen. If not, I know this is a podcast too but @jessicabrotherslife. If you want to follow me, get to know me more about what I do. If you just want to reach out and ask a question, I’m happy to just give out my email. It’s [email protected]. That is my personal email and I’m happy to give it out. I will respond to you for sure. Because I’m here to help you. You know, I know what it’s like to feel anything but healthy. And I know Lesley, you can feel for that too. And I am 100% here to help and use my team to get you to where you want to be.

Lesley Logan
Amazing. Amazing. Okay, before I let you go, you’ve given us some great strategies and tips already. Like I’m already like, got notes like, oh, yeah, I forgot I was used to take those supplements. Let’s get back to it. But BE IT action items. Bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Jessica Brothers
Oh, be it till you see it. So for me, it’s a morning routine. It is a morning routine, have a non negotiable, fill your own cup. And for me and it can look different for you. What I mean by fill your own cup, make sure you’re doing things when you first wake up, first wake up, don’t check your emails, don’t do anything for work or for anyone else. Do it for you. Meaning like, have water with mineral salt in it. Okay, Himalayan pink sea salt, then do something that brings a smile to your face, whether it’s writing goals, visualization of your future, right? That’s huge. That’s manifesting, right? Do something that makes your body feel good. So it can be anything you choose, whether it’s stretching, Pilates, going to the gym, going for a walk. And again, it has to fill you and make you happy and mean something to you and do it no matter where you are. And it can be as little as a 15 minute routine, or it can extend on but you start there you will notice a huge catalyst in your life. And you will get to exactly where you want to be because it worked for me, it works for all my clients. I help with this this little mini routine starting every morning.

Lesley Logan
I’m a big fan of the morning routine. You’re not, I have some people I coach like, “Lesley, I just want to get up earlier.” And I’m like, “You can keep arguing to not but I don’t know you can’t, you gotta have a morning routine for you. You just got to do it.” So okay, because of the recovering perfectionist in the room. How much sea salt are we putting in like little sprinkle? We did a little … in the water like what are we talking?

Jessica Brothers
… So this is this is 20 22 to 24 ounces, depending on where I fill it up of spring water, and I get a little grinder of Himalayan pink sea salt. I mean 20 turns, 20 turns of that, so how would think that’s probably I don’t know. A teaspoon, teaspoon and a half.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. Okay, I’m gonna start this. I’m add this to my morning routine.

Jessica Brothers
… and I just shake it up. It’s I mean, you gotta be okay. It’s gonna taste salty at first, but now my body craves it. Those minerals are so beautiful for your body in the morning.

Lesley Logan
Okay, y’all, this drives Brad crazy. But like, literally he’ll make dinner and I’m like, “Did you put salt on this?” And he’s like, “Yeah, I put salt on this.” And then I take a bite and then I go get this … more salt and I know that’s like a chef’s like no, but I crave salt. Like I love like I love like I like chips and fries are just like a messenger for salt. So now that I can put it in my water, I just gonna try that out … But one of the times I had my bloodwork done, he’s like, you can have all the salt you want. You don’t have to do anything low sodium. It’s like you can have all that you want. Like, okay, well then thank you. (Jessica: And then now I will or keep doing what I’m doing.) Yeah, Jessica, I could talk to you forever. I’m so glad we’re live so close. We have to make time to see each other again soon. (Jessica: Absolutely) And y’all how are you going to use these tips in your life, tag @jessicabrotherslife, tag the @be_it_pod. Let us know. Because when it brings joy to our lives, you know that this helps you but also it helps other people see that there is opportunities out there other than their current. And sometimes we just need to know that like if you don’t know that there’s another option. There’s another way to live optimally. Then you just live your life like that. But we could, you could be the person that inspires someone to get their health check. So thank you, Jessica. Thank you for listening and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Jessica Brothers
Thank you

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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan. And me Brad Crowell. Our associate producer is Amanda Frattarelli.

Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.