Lesley Logan 0:01
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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Lesley Logan 0:46
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co hosts in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the motivating convo I had with Jillian Flodstrom in our last episode. If you haven’t yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us or do it in the reverse. Just like …

Brad Crowell 1:03
Motivating. (Lesley: Yeah) That’s the first, I’m loving it. Loving it.

Lesley Logan 1:07
Yeah, I mean, she definitely had a wealth of knowledge. I hope …

Brad Crowell 1:11
Oh, it was like gold. Keep going back and listen to that one again.

Lesley Logan 1:14
Go back and listen and take so many notes because she was giving you BE IT action items the whole way through. (Brad: The whole time. Yeah) Yeah. And then we found out, I think it was later in the day. I don’t know, I think I recorded her and then I went, was on hers. Anyways, while I was on her podcast, (Brad: Yeah) recording her podcast, we I mentioned I was in Las Vegas. And she we finished her podcast. She’s like, “I’m sorry. Do you live in Las Vegas?” I said, “Yeah.” She’s like, “I live in Las Vegas.” (Brad: What?) And I’m like, “What? How is that possible? I thought you were in Washington.” She said, “We just bought a house. We moved here yesterday.”

Brad Crowell 1:45
Wow. That’s so cool. (Lesley: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.) All right.

Lesley Logan 1:48
Anyways, well, we’ll get into all of the stuff that Jillian has to say in just a second. But I’m so excited because tomorrow eLevate weekend number three kicks off. (Brad:Okay) Can’t, that’s three of five. So it’s like, effectively the halfway point. And eLevate is my mentorship for Pilates instructors. And it’s really fun because we have like 15 women from all over the world working on elevating their practice, their teaching, their connection to the method, we’re ditching perfection. We’re letting go that there’s a right or wrong or an all or nothing in Pilates. We’re like really leaning into like, there’s so much good stuff. And it’s been really fun to watch them grow and see each of their assessments along the way. It’s I don’t know, I’m in love with them.

Brad Crowell 2:31
Not only that, I mean, I’ve noticed from outside perspective here, they are becoming fast friends. You know, the people who are in this first round, you know, it is truly a connection that they will have for the rest of their lives.

Lesley Logan 2:46
Yeah, it’s and that’s also the intention of it. Like you put yourself into groups that of people that have the like the like mindedness, the thought like the the joy, the positivity that you want to have. And (Brad: Yeah) and they are helping be a mirror for each other. So when they talk negatively about how they’re doing, they like are right in there to like, turn that frown upside down. And it’s been a lot of fun because you know, when you …

Brad Crowell 3:11
It’s a technical Pilates term, turn that frown upside down …

Lesley Logan 3:15
Yeah, well, because when you are learning become a Pilates instructor sometimes there’s like you’re taught a lot of time you’re taught, this is how it is. And it’s just that’s not how the case is because every body is different … (Brad: This is how we do it.) Yeah. And so just being able to give them that permission. (Brad: Somebody silly today.) (Brad laughs) Yeah, just be able to give them that permission, excuse me of like, having fun with the method. And also that there isn’t necessarily a right or wrong, there can be a lot of gray in there. And so I’m excited for them. So anyways, I’ve been asked by many people, if we’re doing eLevate again, and the goal is a “yes.” And that we will open the door (Brad: A yes) like, “yes.” But we’re probably just going to open it up to the waitlist and allow the waitlist to apply for it. Because we’re going to keep the next group actually a little smaller than the first group that we did. (Brad: Right) So you’re going to want to get on …

Brad Crowell 4:05
If 15 in this first one, and the next group is going to be 12.

Lesley Logan 4:08
Yeah, yeah, we’re going to max it there, just because I want to make sure that, that I can, I can offer this along with the retreats that we do. And so that just means (Brad: Yeah) I have to make the group smaller, so it’ll be a little more intimate. Not that 15 is a large group, it’s still a small group. So if you’re going to be wanting one of those 12, you’re going to want to on the waitlist because it’s a first come first serve situation.

Brad Crowell 4:33
We’re actually not even planning to announce it publicly. It’s just gonna go straight to those on the waitlist. So if you wanted to do that, get on that waitlist. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) Just go to lesleylogan.co/elevate.

Lesley Logan 4:44
Yeah, that’s the c o .co. So anyways, yeah, so so I’m just freaking love and I’m so excited for this weekend. But before we get into Jillian’s recap. What is our audience question?

Brad Crowell 4:55
Okay, so y’all know how excited I am about cactus and cacti? Well, there’s only one other thing that gets me as excited as those plants. (Lesley: He’s not lying only one other thing.) And that’s starting new businesses. (Brad laughs) (Lesley: He loves it so much.) And I had to promise my team that this was the last one, that we would start until we really (Lesley: Until we sell.) until we, yeah, and still wait till we start to offload some of what we’re what we’ve built over creating. We, the question really was, “I heard a rumor that you’re starting a podcast production company.” (Lesley: Yeah) And that is not a rumor that is actually happening and happened. In fact, last week, we brought on a couple new people to the team to focus specifically on the pod (Lesley: Yeah) company …

Lesley Logan 5:50
The whole job is to focus on this and I’m producing podcasts. And so yes, I had, we’ve been talking to some people whose podcasts we’re actually going to be hopefully producing. (Brad: Yeah) And so then that birdie told another birdie and I got another, I got a little DM slip in there, like, “Excuse me. Uh huh. What is this?” So, what, what is the deal?

Brad Crowell 6:06
But here’s, here’s the deal. So, so, in my, in my humble opinion, actually, this there’s this is like every every rising tide lifts all ships kind of (Lesley: Yeah) analogy. What I’m building here, what I want to put together is a network of health and wellness pods. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) Okay, and we’ve already begun the, we’ve we’ve obviously figured out the process for doing the pods, like all the editing, but it includes the video and includes all the social sharing, and then coordinating with the guests and all that amazing stuff, there’s so many steps, it’s actually really crazy. And the genius of our team has helped us effectively make it scalable, okay? Meaning we could do as many as we want, because of the systematic approach that we’ve got. So that’s really incredible. And what we decided to do then was put this network together of podcasts. And my goal is to put like up to 50 pods on the network in three years, they’re all health and wellness focused in that, you know, and that’s a wide, wide range, but health and wellness focus with the intention of cross promoting the podcast from one, one podcaster would maybe talk about, “Oh, you know, did you know Lesley had, you know, Jillian Flodstrom on and they were talking about, you know, motivating stuff,” you know, whatever.(Lesley: Yeah) And we’ll be cross promoting each other, so that our audiences are all exposed to each other.

Lesley Logan 7:39
Yeah, cuz people who listen to podcasts, listen to podcasts. They don’t listen to just one, they listened on average, about seven, I think it was the last time it was pre pandemic numbers. But …

Brad Crowell 7:48
Yeah, and then and then the bigger picture goal is we can grow that audience as a group of podcasts, and I’m really fired up about it. We’re not the only people out there doing this, there are other networks out there. But if this is something that’s of interest to you, and you’ve been thinking about starting a pod, or you have a pod already, and you’re not really all that excited about, you know, doing all of the editing yourself, (Lesley: all the things) yeah, all the things yourself, you know, video, audio and social sharing stuff and transcripts and posting to your website, I mean, we were bringing so much to the table. You can you can actually apply to be on our pod network. And I will talk to you about that. And all the you know, everything from what the costs are to what you know, what the the timelines and how to, how we do this, go to lesleylogan.co/network, (Lesley: Yeah) lesleylogan.co/network. And, you know, that, like I said, like, the not only can we take take the burden off of you of actually producing all the pods and the content and managing it, we’re also the end, the end goal is really to also work with ads, and then turn that into a revenue engine for you. (Lesley: Yeah) And so you know, if that’s up your alley, let me know we’re we are taking on clients …

Lesley Logan 9:04
Yeah, podcasts, y’all, if you are wanting to get, you want to be a speaker, you want to be invited to do things like podcasts are the way to do that. It’s also one of the quickest way is to like meet your heroes and get to talk to them because everybody wants to be on a podcast. So

Brad Crowell 9:17
Yeah, every time we do a show, an episode here, with our pod, it’s another rep, you know, of “being on stage” quote, unquote, “being in front of people,” quote, unquote, you know, but it’s practice, we get the chance to be on camera. And, you know, be messy, take messy action, because, you know, “Oops, I said it wrong. Oh, I better correct it. I’m not gonna edit that out.” It’s just like, yeah, you know, it (Lesley: You …) really helps you.

Lesley Logan 9:22
You know, it kind of goes into what we’re going to talk about in a moment, but, um, you get used to like making mistakes, fixing it on the fly, and just keeping going. (Brad: Yeah) And that like, you know, we didn’t talk about this on the pod yet, but I was on the local news here. And it’s always an out of body experience for me, whenever we do things like that, cuz I’m like, “Oh my God…” I thought it’d be pre recorded. It was live and I was like, “Oh my God it’s live. Don’t say the F word.” So, um, so anyways, um, but when you do get on podcast when you have a podcast when you’re used to doing things like this, it is really easy to talk to a random person I met five seconds before he went on the air and have a full on conversation like we’re best friends. (Brad: Right) And that we get each other because we’re both trying to make sure that the audience is getting the answers they need to questions that they have. And it all people like, “How do you do that?” It’s like thousands of episodes for YouTube, podcast is like, (Brad: Sure) getting used to like saying things …

Brad Crowell 10:31
Classes. (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah. And the idea of thinking about like, like, what is the audience perceiving and what do they need to connect with this segment or this piece or this episode? You know, that definitely puts you on a, you know, the guy, the guy who was the host of the TV show. Yeah, he’s a pro. He’s in there every day doing the morning news or whatever news it was. And and so when you know, he’s made a career out of it, right. So he knows his audience, his audience knows him. And it was really exciting for me to in the back of my mind, tell Lesley, “Don’t say the F word,” but in the front of my mind be like excited because she gets how it works. And she was using those same, that same understanding to connect with his audience (Lesley: Mm-hmm) and relate it back to him, which allowed him to actually have a conversation with her, (Lesley: Yeah) you know, just more practice.

Lesley Logan 11:19
And all that, and all that comes from podcasting. (Brad: Yeah) So, just to wrap this all up, (Brad: Yeah) yes to the person who slid into my DMs. Yes, and there is the link I promised you to apply. (Lesley and Brad laughs)

Brad Crowell 11:31
lesleylogan.co/network

Lesley Logan 11:32
If you have questions you want Brad or I to answer you… you need to send them to us on Instagram (Brad: Yeah) the @be_it_pod is the easiest place but if you want to send them to my Instagram, on @lesley.logan or on @profitablepilates, it’s fine. Just say, “I want you to answer this question on the podcast.” Great.

Brad Crowell 11:46
Dig it. Okay, now let’s talk about Jillian Flodstrom. A conve… a convert from the corporate world to becoming a kick ass entrepreneur and founder five different companies.

Lesley Logan 11:59
I think you too are …

Brad Crowell 12:01
Yeah, yeah. Jillian Flodstrom, is dedicating her time to help small business owners become more productive, aligned and in control of their fortunes. (Lesley: Futures) Futures, fortunes, futures, all of the F words. (Brad laughs)

Lesley Logan 12:18
I think I think she’s probably doing all of that.

Brad Crowell 12:20
Speaking of rolling with it on the fly. And that (Lesley: Yeah) going back to edit. (Brad laughs)

Lesley Logan 12:24
All right. Well, I think she does both because if you can control your future, you can control your fortunes. (Brad: Yeah, so…) And it made me think of Fortune Feimster, which is like just a comedian who I definitely want on the pod. So if anyone knows Fortune Feimster I want her on the spot (I freakin love her.) (Brad laughs) She has nothing to do with this episode. So (Brad: Nothing to do with the episode.) one thing that I love that Jillian talked about, I mean, she talked about so many things we could have gone on forever. But perfection kill… perfectionism kills opportunity. (Brad: Yes) I see this all the time. I see this in coaching teachers, I see this in teaching people Pilates, the idea of like, trying to get something right, really is killing you from exploring and getting a learning lesson and getting strength and getting your reps in and learning anything and, and people, you know, some of the opportunities I’ve had are because I didn’t wait for it to be perfect. And I just did the thing. And because I did it before anyone else did who’s trying to make it perfect. It doesn’t matter, that mine like other people might have better versions, but because I just frickin kept putting stuff out there and doing the best I could. It’s the perfect thing. It allowed me to be in a place to have bounce buddy asked me to do blog writing. (Brad: Yeah) That when like, I was a terrible blog writer, but I was just the only other person blogging. (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell 13:39
She would write it and then I would rewrite it afterwards she written.

Lesley Logan 13:43
Yeah. (Brad: True) It’s cuz I don’t know were commas go. It’s fine. It’s fine. You just …

Brad Crowell 13:47
It works out. (Lesley: You just organize my thoughts.) I mean, that you know consider me the editor. (Lesley: That’s …) It’s all good.

Lesley Logan 13:53
Yeah, anyways. But the point is, I really love that she said that. And I think if you’re listening to us, and there’s something you’re waiting to do untill it’s right, or ready, just put it out there and do the thing and just see what happens.

Brad Crowell 13:55
Well, I think also too, with the podcast company, I felt like that too. You know, I had this idea, literally 14 months ago. And yeah, it was the beginning of last year, and when we were talking about your pod, and also and I had this idea, and she was like, “We got to get one pod off the ground first.” And I was like, “Oh, I know. But don’t worry, it’s gonna happen all up in my head.” And it took me a long time. And I thought we were ready to get started a few times before but I was hesitating, I was hesitating. And you know, cuz I was waiting for the stars to align when we had the perfect clients. And we could get paid right away and we could do all these things. And like, it just kind of slowed it all down for me. And it finally became clear that I just need to get this … I need to pull a trigger when you do it and there was risk involved because I meant hiring the team, you know, but you know now got the balls rolling it’s like …

Lesley Logan 15:01
Now there’s opportunity to take on the client (Brad: Not …) when you meet them. You can’t be like, “Oh, just give me a month to get everybody on board.” (Brad: Right. Exactly.) What did you love?

Brad Crowell 15:09
Awesome. Well, so she said, first off with the perfectionism kills opportunity. So she was specifically talking about starting a like a side hustle, right? And then she talked about what I really loved was talking about surrounding yourself with people who want to become better. And you you two had a really interesting back and forth about what if you can’t get away from the people who are the negative (Lesley: Yeah) you know, influence in your life? Like, what if it’s your spouse, or your family member, your dad or whatever? Like, what if it’s, you know, you’re a ra.. or maybe it’s your boss, you know, you’re around that person all the time. And I’m really loved what her response was. And that’s what I wanted to talk about. She, she said, first off, you want to surround yourself with people who want to become better, because that, that, that positive influence is going to change the way that you think. But if you don’t have the choice, to get away from the negativity, you can do that with a podcast and going for a walk. (Lesley: Yeah) You know, so finding a pod that you find inspiring or encouraging, you know, preferably, it starts with Be It and ends with Till You See It. (Lesley laughs)

Lesley Logan 16:20
But also it makes me think of, or… Hazel Ortega is like, “J.Lo was my mentor,” like, (Brad: Yeah sure) like, um, you know, picking out podcasts, getting books, following people who do have a positive influence over you that may not ever be your friend, but like, they can be your sacred space and until, you can have a stronger muscle of being the person you want to be around the negativity that you can’t get away from. Because I think that’s really the problem is like that their negative energy is overpowering your ability to be positive in a moment. (Brad: Yeah) And so and have that strength and belief in what you want to do. So get your get your cup filled with all these other people who may or may not know that you’re like, being a sexy barnacle, my Agency members, so you’re being someone who’s like, “Okay, I’m going to listen to this. I’m going to make sure I look at their feeds. I’m going to read their stuff I’m not,” you know, and then that way, you can actually have a stronger effect. So when, you know now, like, we have a family member who sometimes he has a really hard time being positive. And the other day when he I answered my phone, and he was like, “Blah, blah, blah.” And I was like, “Good morning, it’s so good to hear your voice.” You know, like, like, I didn’t, I didn’t like I didn’t meet him at his level. That’s because, you know, I, I have a much stronger reflex around that now. So I think that that’s a really wa… a way to do it. I really liked her suggestion, because she could have said nothing, she could have said, sorry …

Brad Crowell 17:49
Yeah, I mean, it’s the, you know, I’m sure you’ve heard that where the sum of the five people that we hang out with the most or whatever. And, and the reality is, it’s it’s, it’s unfortunately, it’s unfortunately, true. (Brad laughs) (Lesley: Yeah) You know, like, like, it’s, it’s easy to hesitate and not take messy action, or to feel like you have to get things perfect before what if you’re surrounded with people who aren’t taking action, who aren’t who you know, who are also waiting, or who are ideas, people only, but they’re not doing execution that you know, the execution side of it, they’re not actually taking any action, it’s so easy to measure yourself against the people that you’re with. And we obviously talked about not doing that, when in your business, don’t measure your business against someone else. But it’s kind of hard not to we do that, right. So if, you know, we, we inadvertently give ourselves permission, or, you know, like permission to take action, or permission not to take action, because of the people who are influencing us the most. So if the people who are around you are never taking action, that is going to feel weird for you to actually go do that, you’re going to feel like you’re, you know, you’re you’re doing something out of the norm. And you’re going to be giving yourself permission not to take action because nobody else has taken action. So what’s it really matter, right? And then conversely, in a positive note, if the people you’re around are hustling, and they’re out there doing their, their side hustle, and they’re, you know, like they’re talking about all the time, they’re excited, they’re getting a client, they’re doing the thing, they’re making a website or whatever it is they’re doing that’s going to spur you on and in gi… give you that positive permission to actually go take messy action yourself.

Lesley Logan 19:31
Yeah, no, I agree. I think it’s really fun. You know, I was just thinking last Thursday I went and took that pole fitness class because I’m looking, I’m on a hobby hunt. And I I there was an unfortunate circumstance where the teacher didn’t show up so then this other teacher had to teach burlesque and pole so she did a burle… she taught burlesque extra like thing move and then she had a pole move and then a burlesque move and just so you know, no freakin way do I want to do burlesque. I have friends who love it and they’re so good at it. And I’m like, I watch them and I’m like, “I could be sexy. I could do it.” And I was in that class, I’m like, “This is, this is so far out of my like comfort zone. Like, this is (Brad laughs) like 15 lifetimes of comfort zone, I have to get through.” But, but I was like wanting to leave, but no one else was leaving. I was like, “Okay, they’re just rolling with it.” And I’m like, “Okay, I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna go like, I’m obviously here for a reason.” (Brad: Yeah) And, and it doesn’t have to be perfect just because like, like, “I’m here to see if I like this.” So it’s fine. Maybe I probably wouldn’t be like, have no arms if I was able to a full hour class, the first time I showed up. So let me just say… (Brad: Yeah, it’s no joke.) The burlesque break was great. I definitely took it. I was like, “This is good. I’m gonna watch. Way to go, ladies.” (Brad and Lesley laughs) And I did a couple moves and I was like, “This hurts my knees.” Everything hurts. So Les, I’m thinking about you. (Lesley laughs) I was like, “How are the ladies doing it?” Anyways, but I was doing the poll, and I was really uncomfortable and a little nervous and feeling really intimidated. And the women there were like, so eager to help. So wanting to like show like, “Oh, no, just move your foot right there.” And they’re like, “Yeah, you got it.” And they’re like, “You have to come back.” And so like, even in that moment, surrounded myself with a bunch of people who like, they’re already better than I am. And they were so excited to like, help me. And so it’s like, I actually want to go back even though I don’t know that I liked it. I don’t know … it’s unclear still. But I think it’s like putting yourself in spaces and not being scared to like, connect with those people who are, who want to become better at whatever there is they’re doing. It’s contagious and made me want to try like I was watching these girls when like, “Well, if they can do it. I feel like I should be able to do this.” (Brad: Right) So it was just anyways, I think that is a really good reminder that we all need to do.

Brad Crowell 21:41
Yeah, well, awesome. All right. Finally, let’s talk about those BE IT action items that you discussed with Jillian Flodstrom. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo?

Lesley Logan 21:55
Why don’t you jump in?

Brad Crowell 21:56
Yeah, so (Lesley and Brad laughs) that’s my line.

Lesley Logan 22:00
I know. You say it all the time so I was wanted to … (Lesley and Brad laughs)

Brad Crowell 22:05
That’s funny. Okay, so she talked about getting it all done and all the things, right. And she said, what she does is she instead of planning out a whole year, she plans quarterly, so 90 days, and she breaks it down. And she thinks about her year as one quarter. So every three months in her mind is one year, right? And so she’s like, “Alright, if I’m going to, you know, get done everything this year, then I’m going to consider each week of those 12 weeks, one month.” Right? “So I’ve got a whole month to do this whole thing, whatever this whole thing happens to be” and she works backwards, she breaks it down into chunks of, you know, whatever it is to accomplish, you know, the next steps. And I loved this because we we do this all the time with our Agency members. So if you’re an Agency, and you’re a pro member, you get a quarterly phone call with us. And we get to help you dig into your actual business about your, you know, dreams, your goals, your clients, your path, and we help you map out your next 90 days. So exactly what Jillian’s talking about here, because we found the exact same thing, when you have goals that are like, “Someday I’m going to open 10 studios.” Right? That’s like a very, that’s a it’s an intangible goal. There’s no actual task there, you know, because there’s like a thousand tasks to open one studio, and then you got to repeat the process, right? So you can’t just say like, “Oh, you know, I’ll open 10 studios,” you got to get a break it all the way down to opening one, and what’s gonna happen within the next 90 days to get that one open? And then how do we like create a process around that so that you can use that process to open others in the future. And it allows it to, again, take messy action, not make things perfect and create, like, you know, allows, I think my favorite part of working with our Agency members who are on this program, the pro program, where we have these quarterly calls, is they get to look back at the previous 90 days, and they get to see all the amazing progress that they made from their plan that we helped them, you know, sculpt together and then they went back and they said, “Wow, I did this, this this this, okay, these two things didn’t happen. Okay, why? All right, let’s, let’s figure that out.” But you know, these other things, they all happen in the last quarter and, and they get to, you know, you would get to literally see your business moving forward. It’s exciting. So (Lesley: Yeah) I love that planning quarterly, (Lesley: She …) you know, planning quarterly.

Lesley Logan 24:32
She is like the organization like woman, she’s so great. And she is like, yeah, and also all tasks should take two to five minutes. And it’s like, boom (Brad: Right) and it gets done so like quickly because you don’t think, “Oh, I’m gonna, I’m gonna write a blog. It’s like, I’m gonna make a title. I’m gonna write the first paragraph, second paragraph,” (Brad: Yeah) you know, like, and so anyways it for some people’s brains, I think that’s really great. I love it, I mean.

Brad Crowell 24:57
Yeah, so what about you? What’s your biggest take BE IT takeaway?

Lesley Logan 25:00
Okay, this is so cool. This is genius. Write a list of things stopping you from having your dream life. So sometimes we don’t know what we want. I get this a lot when people are like, “I don’t know what goals to have. I don’t really know what I want.” And other times people know exactly what they want. But there’s all these things that are in the way. I love this, you write a list, nothing stopping you from having it. And then you can really, you can just like go through and go, “Is this true? Like or how do I get rid of this thing?” Or so because it’s sort of like your dream life is like so far away and you have all these obstacles, you can actually tangibly see what they are. Some of them might be mindset related and some of (Brad: Yeah) that is like really good awareness for you like, is it even real? And then other things might be physical, like maybe your dream life is living in a different place. And so we have a girl that were in a that Artist’s Way course whose dream life is living in Italy, she lives here in Vegas. (Brad: Right) But she is she’s like, “Okay, what’s stopping me from moving to Italy? Well, we need to have money, we need to have this, we need to have this.” So she wrote all these things down. She didn’t even know she was being it until she sees it. But she is (Brad laughs) she wrote down and they have a plan to have this dream life in Italy by getting rid of the roadblocks that are there. And so I think if you don’t currently have the dream life that you want to have write down the reasons you don’t and see which ones are in your control. (Brad: Yeah) Which ones are real? Which ones are like you just have to change like your, the way you’re seeing it. And …

Brad Crowell 26:22
Yeah, her specific example, from the interview was many, many women don’t leave their full time jobs to become an entrepreneur because of the insurance aspect of it. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) Right? And so they they feel stuck, because they’re like, “I would except, hmm.” Right. So that line right there, I would expect, like, fill in the blanks, what what is the except, you know, what is that thing? Or what is the multiple things that are stopping you from taking those next steps in your journey, you know, in, you know, for towards your dream? And that could be money. It could be family, it could be insurance, it could be you know, I don’t know, maybe you have a, you know, like, for example, my, my parents were like, “Oh, yeah, we’re gonna move.” And then they were like, “Oh…” except our parents or my grandparents, their their parents are getting old and they wanted to be near them. Okay. I, you know, that’s a reasonable thing. But, you know, if that’s what’s stopping them from moving, then maybe now there’s just a timeline on it, and we can count down, you know, figure that whole thing out. And so there’s just there’s a ton of reasons that, that we tell ourselves, these are the stories that we’re telling ourselves. And more often than not, they’re figureoutable.

Lesley Logan 27:38
Everything is. (Brad: Yeah) All right. I’m Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 27:41
And I’m Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 27:42
Thank you so much for joining us today. I’m so grateful for you (Brad: Yes) like we really wouldn’t have podcast without listeners. So thanks for being one. How are you going to use these tips in your life? What I want you to do is screenshot this episode. (Brad: Yeah) Tag me the @be_it_pod, tag Jillian Flodstrom and your takeaway. And this way, not only do people around you get to hear about this amazing show and maybe become one of the five people want to surround yourself with. But also Jillian and I get to hear what really landed with you, and we can continue to bring you more episodes like this one. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 28:12
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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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