Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the daring convo I have with Keri Ford in our last episode. If you haven’t listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Alright, so while this is coming out, there’s a lot going on. We’re actually halfway through Agency Mini, and this week is just freaking phenomenal and always fires me up. I really love it.

Brad Crowell
It’s a crazy week.

Lesley Logan
I know. But you know what we get, we get Bronze Cafe delivered every day. We have, we have lot, (Brad: I love that.) we have lots of amazing support for our Mini members with our ambassadors and our coaches. And it’s also so fun for like the light bulbs to light to come on for them. (Brad: Yeah) And so I’m just like I’m, while it’s a crazy week, we put in more hours and this week than we probably do in most of our months. Supporting people, it is so much fun, because whether or not they join us in Agency, they will never unlearn and forget this information and they can take action. And it’s just so fun.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, I mean, the being in a container, you know, like in a safe space with people asking questions where we get to sew into them, empower them, put them in a place where they feel confident, and they’ve gained clarity, and they’re ready to go, interact with more people in Pilates, that is what furthers our mission. And it’s why we love hosting Agency Mini, because we get to work with more people and a shorter amount of time. And then some of those people will actually continue to work with us on an ongoing basis. And it’s just so much fun. (Lesley: Yeah) It is really, really amazing. And we’ve got we always get great questions. And by the end of the week, what’s so neat about it is a bunch of strangers come together, all over the world. And they’re really like shy and not sure. And then by the end of the week, they’re encouraging each other and supporting each other and like cheering each other on. And if everybody wins, it’s so fucking cool.

Lesley Logan
It’s everything that is industry needs. And like, the more we actually support each other, the more people who do Pilates period. (Brad: Yeah.) And like what is like, they’ll be people who, you know, are the same cities in that group. And you can see that people like, “Oh, I’m here.” But then all of a sudden, everyone realizes, like, you teach different people like you, like literally don’t have crossover, (Brad: Yeah.) you’re on opposite sides of the city, or one of you is classes and one of you teaches privates. Like there’s not …

Brad Crowell
Or one of the focuses on you know, elderly and the other works with moms.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so it’s, um, it’s really actually so amazing for people to see, “Wow, these people are my partners in success and not necessarily like my competition.” So

Brad Crowell
Yeah, community, not competition. (Lesley: Yeah.) What we say over and over again.

Lesley Logan
We do. And we and you know what, when people get into Agency that even develops more and more and more, and (Brad: Yeah.) it’s just, it’s beautiful. So, anyways, the next Agency Mini the dates probably have been determined at this point, but I don’t have them for you. So if you are missing out, feeling the FOMO as you should, because we would love to have worked with you this week, go to profitablepilates.com/mini to get on the waitlist for the next one.

Brad Crowell
Yes, yeah, add yourself to the waitlist, we always email the waitlist first and tell them about the (Lesley: early bird) early bird pricing. So it’s worth being on the waitlist, even if it’s not going to come up for another couple months. So go add yourself there profitablepilates.com/mini. (Lesley: Yeah.) And if you are going to be in California, in Monterey for Balanced Bodies Pilates on tour, we will see you there.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, we have a booth. So I won’t be teaching but that just means I have more time to actually hang out with you. So I’m actually really excited about there’s some amazing people a ton of our elevators, OPC members, Agency members, all going to be there’s gonna have a big party. Brad’s got the booth as well. And so if you haven’t yet signed up, definitely sign up. I’m sure they have like day passes, and also whole week long passes. But Monterey, Monterey is beautiful. And there are some epic people, Erika Quest is going to be there. Our Agency member Christine Waterman is actually presenting there. (Brad: Oh good.) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (Brad: That’s great.) So it’s a whole lot of fun. And we’re going to drive out.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, we’re driving out because we needed to bring our own Reformer.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, yeah, for eLevate weekend because we agreed (Brad: It overlaps.) to do this. It overlaps. So from 12 to 4 I will be in a hotel room with lights, camera, action teaching our eLevators and Brad will be …

Brad Crowell
And will be smuggling in our own Contrology Reformer into the hotel room, so we’re gonna get a big one.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, we’re working on that details right now and awesome hotspot. But these are like the things you have to do to make sure that you can sip or, you know, people (Brad: Yeah.) in all the ways and we’re on a mission, ‘More bodies doing Pilates’ and Balanced Body is an amazing company. We I’ve been an ADC, which just means that I am the representative of Contrology. So I love it to be wherever they are gonna have it. (Brad: Yeah.) So it’ll be it’ll be a lot of fun. That’s a great weekend.

Brad Crowell
If you’re looking at that equipment. We have a referral code for you that saves you 5%. (Lesley: Yeah.) Hit us up, just send us a DM. Happy to share. But first, (I steal your line) we have an audience question, Lesley.

Lesley Logan
I know, I know. This is this is a okay, this question I got every day three times a day when I was in Dallas with Erika. I get it actually in my DMs all the time. So I thought you know what, we’re just going to, let’s just call it out. (Brad: Yeah.) When are the Chairs decks happen coming out? When are they shipping? What are they in existence? And the actual truth at the time of this recording is. We don’t know. But our goal has always been to be on presale in February.

Brad Crowell
Okay, two things. First off, if you don’t know what a Chairs deck is, we have flashcards on onlinepilatesclasses.com. And we’ve already released the Mat, the Reformer and the Cadillac decks. And that’s over the past three years. This year, we’re releasing the Chairs deck, which is 90 something cards, 99 cards or something like that. (Lesley: I think it’s 96 exercises.) Yeah, and it has been we’ve been working on it since last summer. And we’re really, really close. I think we at this point, we definitely got like a sample of the boxes. And we’ve started like getting samples of the cards themselves. So I think we’re like two or three months away. So what we’re going to be doing is the best thing you can do if you want more information about this, go to the wait… get yourself on the waitlist, go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Okay, I’m gonna say that again, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, we’ll put that link in the show notes. (Lesley: Yeah.) But we will be announcing a presale sometime, like probably in the next couple of weeks. And then the decks should be shipping roughly two months after the presale happens. So

Lesley Logan
Yeah. so and that’s why we have said like a couple months away because so this, and this is what I explained people because you may not understand like the the Cadillac deck was over 300 hours when we stopped counting. And (Brad: Yeah.) definitely went over. And I had just still record a few things that we had recordings for. But we didn’t have new recordings for those last week. And I was like, “Oh my gosh, five more hours.” Anyways, so these decks do take a lot of time because after I write the first draft, which I am so proud of myself how quickly I wrote the first draft. (Brad: Yeah.) My team gets them on the card so I can see them because I’m a visual person, then I edit them again. Then we actually have someone else who’s a teacher come through and read them to make sure that they make sense and we usually pick someone who has on different piece of equipment than I am because I tried to make sure that whatever Chair you’re on or whatever Reformer you’re on, whatever Cadillac you have information to help you use these cards. Then we have someone who doesn’t even know Pilates at all read them to make sure that they make sense. And then

Brad Crowell
Yeah, so it’s not just all Pilates language and like you know, your mom can pick it up, pick up a deck and be like, “Oh, maybe I want to do this and I get I get what they’re saying here.”

Lesley Logan
Yeah, and then I get to do it again, get to read them again because I just want to make sure that I don’t miss anything. And so then what happens is we go on presale, which means you get the best opportunity, the best deal on the deck (Brad: Yeah.) that will have while it when it for a new deck. And then it is an 8 to 10 week ship like print job. (Brad: Yeah.) So so that’s why he said a few months. So if we can go on presale in this month of February. We’re looking at end of May. (Brad: Yeah.) Yeah. Which is hear before you know it. So you know time is flying by.

Brad Crowell
Yeah. So anyway, get yourself on that waitlist.

Lesley Logan
And if you don’t have a Chair, get the Mat deck, get the Reformer deck, get the Tower deck. (Brad: Yeah.) Like go get those, you can get those at OPC.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, and in the future we’ve got barrels coming and then accessories and then there will be six total. (Lesley: Yeah.) And we will call that a wrap.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, we will call that a wrap.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, so we still we’re still signed up for another year and a half of production and writing and content creation here. So

Lesley Logan
More photo shoots and all this stuff. So yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what, it’s okay because (Brad: It’s a lot of fun.) what I’m just gonna show this on the Balanced Body in case they’re not listening but just in case Kens listening, what what’s been so fun is that as I’ve been producing these cards, he’s come out with the Contrology piece. (Brad: Right.) So I’ve been able to use where there’s a Contrology piece use that and I know that they’re in production right now and they’re they’re trying and so I may have to like swap or doing just so that like I can possibly get what I want. Because you know anyways, we’ll see this is just me explaining like, this is like behind the curtain. Here you go because I really like you guys. No, these are not like oh, I should do that. You can. I’m just gonna tell you it’s hundreds of hours of work.

Brad Crowell
All right. Now let’s talk about Keri Ford. Ever figuring it out, Keri is a high performance Holistic Life Coach, who uses somatics to bring healing and help individuals change life patterns. She’s the CEO and founder of Elevate with Keri, a transformational coaching movement to raise women’s emotional intelligence and their whole body performance.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so she is if you listened to the first interview, she was actually one of those girls that I met on that random, like, let’s have a girl’s weekend with people that we know on the internet. And so she’s one of them. And we’re actually at the time of this recording. We’re like days away from meeting her and her partner at their place that they like home that they have in California. We’ll be up in like the boondocks and like just doing lots of stuff to like, body hack and pour into ourselves and nerd out on business before we drive off to Monterey.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, I’m looking forward to that. It’s gonna be great.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. So one thing that I love that she said was find the mountain with no top that you are willing to climb. I’m going to say that one more time. Find the mountain with no top that you’re willing to climb because it’s a lifelong journey. And I think it is, I think we’re, I think it’s really easy to go, “I’m not where I want it to be all right. Like …” And like we get frustrated, but like, the reality is, is that like, in in bettering yourself, in becoming the person you want to be in change, and like unlearning the habits and, and thoughts that you’ve had from your childhood, in your life and the partners, you pick it all that stuff, all of that you don’t just like, check a box. Okay, won’t date the wrong ones again or Okay, won’t have like that won’t take that job promotion. Again, it’s like, it is a lifelong journey. And so she talks about like, being a woman that sees things differently and is willing to go to her edge over and over and over again, because it’s in service to herself and the people she serves. So you’re on a mountain with no top. And so I hope that that like gives you permission a to like, you know, it’s not that you can’t like take a pause somewhere. But that where this life is, is, I don’t know. I just feel like …

Brad Crowell
Let me give a little bit of clarity to, let me let me quantify this for you because I just realized I should have asked you to go second. Because I she said something that was really revealing. We’ve heard, I’ve heard the somatic coaching before. We know somatic relationship coach, coaches, somatic therapy, like all this kind of stuff. And part of your conversation was, what is the difference between somatics and traditional therapy? And she talked about somatics being the mind body connection. Okay. And that is very cliche sounding, mind body connection … (Lesley: That’s what I do.) What does that mean? Okay, awesome, right. But what she’s talking about here is well, if you feel like you’re you’re at war with yourself, right, where you’re obviously not connected. Okay. And she said we can use the power of our mind and our nervous system to create a different experience from that, you know, war like state. She said that somatics are they really somatic focuses on it centers around your beliefs. Okay. And the way she was talking about it, it made me realize those beliefs could be conscious, or not just unconscious there, you know, whether you consciously believe something, it doesn’t change the fact that you still believing something. (Lesley: Yeah.) Right. And so, for example, how you feel about something is a belief you’ve adopted, whether you realize it or not. And she said, this is the key here, this is the key to somatics. Belief is the bridge that connects your mind and your body. Okay, so the body will follow what the mind believes. Okay, and so when you’re talking, so the question was that I should had you ask at the beginning of the mountain top idea is, tell me about this journey of this bridge of connecting the mind and the body. You know, is that, you know, is that something you do in like, 10 sessions, and you’re done? Or, you know, what is that and really, she was talking about that being the mountain that doesn’t have a top, you’re consis… you’re consistently pursuing, analyzing your beliefs and adjusting your beliefs to be reconnecting your mind and your body. So you can optimize, you can optimize your yourself. Right. (Lesley: Yeah.) And the way you approach life, and then your body itself.

Lesley Logan
Well, and just to like, reiterate that it’s a lifelong journey. And also, you should listen to the interviews too. Because then you’ll understand what I’m talking about when I bring out what I love. But I think like, because it’s a lifelong journey. The reason I keep saying that is it can feel really overwhelming if you’re climbing something that never has an end. But it’s not that it is this like frustrating, like exhausting. Like, oh my gosh, like you’re being knocked down over and over again, kind of climb. Like when I think of like climbing a mountain, it just sounds like fear and scare. Like, I’m gonna, like lose my grip, and like, it’s just a lot, but actually, it’s just that you are bettering yourself, you are evaluating, you are looking at how, why you’re reacting to things, and you are asking yourself, I mean, we just go back to Alan’s like, Am I doing the best that I can with what I have where I am? And if you’re, if one day, the answer is no, then that’s where you get to do some evaluation. And you’re like, keep going up that mountain, you know, so I think it can be really easy for the perfectionist to be like, I like is it happened in seven days. No, you actually, it took you your whole life to get to where you are, it’s going to take all those years and more to like, unravel that and change and make those changes.

Brad Crowell
I mean, I laugh about this, often, but I was, I remember sitting down for my first voice lesson, and confident that I was very good at singing already. Which I could certainly sing but was I good at singing? No. In fact, I was singing completely wrong. And I was damaging my voice every time I was singing. I didn’t know that. But I thought that I was kicking ass. And I said to her like, so like, you know, how long does it take to like, get my voice where I wanted to be like six sessions, you know, like 10 that maybe like 15? And she’s like, looks at me like, why don’t we just get started? And we can cross that bridge as we go. And it’s been 13 years.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, well, and like that’s the same thing with Pilates. We’re like, okay, so like, what are we gonna do like 10 sessions and like, you’ll feel better, certainly. But like, if you want to keep feeling better, you have to keep coming. Like Pilates is a practice with no mount… like with no mountain top. (Brad: Yeah. So, mountain with no top.) Yeah, yeah. So like, and if you do Pilates that doesn’t overwhelm you. So it shouldn’t overwhelm you (Brad: Right) to be someone on a pursuit.

Brad Crowell
Well, it’s also hilarious, because I didn’t realize how much I enjoy my voice lessons. And how good they make me feel. And so I am very happy to continue them. (Lesley: Right, right. And I think …) Well, Pilates is probably the same way.

Lesley Logan
But I also think if you ask that kind of question in a Pilates class or to your voice teacher or to your therapist, or to any of those things like it is certainly human nature to want to know where is the end to this? (Brad: Sure.) Like, I like to know how many times here and make me do a jumping jack. I want to know how long (Brad: Yeah.) is playing … (Brad: Well, that’s for sure.) gonna be like, I do want to know that. Right. So that’s totally human nature. What is amazing, though, is that you heard that, that there was no end in sight yet that she was at least going to give you one and you kept going. And I think that that is what puts you on this pursuit of like, okay, I’m willing to trust this person with whatever it is that I’m working on. (Brad: Yeah.) And so I think if you are in pursuit of something, don’t get so hung up on the logistics if you don’t have all the answers right away. Start going, start moving on.

Brad Crowell
One step in front of the other, you know, you’re definitely gonna figure that out as as you get along. (Lesley: Yeah.) (Brad claps)

All right. So finally, let’s talk about those BEI T action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Keri Ford? I am going to jump in and say, she said something that made me laugh because we talked about this all the time.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. But I loved it because she’s a mom.

Brad Crowell
Yeah. She said, pour into yourself first. And then you can pour into others later in the day.

Lesley Logan
Yeah. And like, and I love that she said that because she is a mom of two kids. And she runs her own business. And she actually shares partnership of parenting those kids. And so that’s an added layer of meaning to organize things. And she said that, and I think it’s just important women and ladies, listen to this, no matter who you’re caring for. Maybe it’s an elderly parent, or it’s a child, we really do need to pour into ourselves first. So yeah, I love that she said that.

Brad Crowell
Yeah. And when should you pour on yourself?

Lesley Logan
So that’s mine.

Brad Crowell
Yes, it is.

Lesley Logan
So she said, carve out your morning sandbox, which I think is so fun, because sandbox means play. (Brad: Yeah.) Right. Pick three items that you want to do for 10 mi… 10 minute each or so and carve out about an hour in your morning and do them in any order that you feel inclined to do them. So I love this because it’s specific, but also there’s some play, okay. So we’ve had, I mean, every single person has their morning routine, you’ll all like literally there are books on this, like the 5am and I’m not saying have to get up at 5am. But like, like that your morning is what sets you up. So she gave this this choice. And so if you didn’t like the other people’s morning routine suggestions, here’s one for you, pick three items that you want to do for 10 minutes each or so and carve out about an hour in your morning to do them in any order that you feel so inclined. And I love that because you can change up the order. So you don’t have to like, “Oh crap, I can’t do my yoga first. So I can’t do any of them.” Nope, you can do whatever order you want. And she also gave you an hour to do it so that life can life in between those 10 minutes (Brad: Yeah.) or you can or if you’re really loving your meditation, you can stay in it. So I thought that was fun …

Brad Crowell
Or you get distracted by a thought, you can take a minute to write it down.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, you’re not so pressed for time. And, and I really liked this also, if you have not started a morning routine, but it’s been something you want to do if you’ve like heard how long line is. Look mine got there over time and got there by picking things for 10 minutes or doing 30 minute runs or whatever. So give yourself permission to go, “Okay, what are three things I want to do in the morning that can make me feel good?” And then set a timer. And you know, what if if you had meditation, but you sat there and thought about your like to do list, that’s okay, you still sat sat somewhere for 10 minutes. And you you know, chalk it up to a practice like I’ve I’ve talked to many of meditation people that like it’s really okay if you if your mind wandered. (Brad: Sure.) Yeah, so anyways, I thought she was super fun. I love what she’s doing with women out in the world. She’s, she’s, she’s someone who is like, walking her talk and her and I think that that’s also inspiring, and we can all you know, it’s not easy like you she’s on a moun… she’s on the path with no top. So like it (Brad: Yeah.) means consistent reevaluation of what she’s doing. And I really enjoyed having her on to share that with everybody. (Brad: Yeah.) All right. I’m Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell
And I’m Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful you’re here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by sending us a DM or email, [email protected] And also, you can put your questions in there and we’ll answer in there and we hope to see you in real life somewhere along our next week’s journey, but if not, I’m sure we’ll see you in the future.

Brad Crowell
Bye for now.

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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of ‘Bloom Podcast Network’.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.

Lesley Logan
Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.

Brad Crowell
Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.