How to Persist When
Failure Seems Like
a Stop Sign

Ep. 365 with Lesley & Brad

“Failure is actually not a stop sign. Some people will have an obstacle and they’ll go, ‘Oh, this is a sign that I’m not supposed to be doing the thing.’”

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Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan share enlightening takeaways from confidence expert Simone in this compelling episode. They explore how confidence can be intentionally built through facing challenges and adopting actionable strategies. Tune in to learn about embracing failures, transforming mindsets, and using these experiences to cultivate a more confident and self-loving approach to life.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • Failure is a pathway to growth and a valuable learning experience.
  • Cultivating a positive mindset to fuel actions and attract success.
  • The importance of regularly asking yourself what you truly want in life.
  • Why acceptance and self-love is the foundation for true confidence.

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Lesley Logan: She actually believes that failure is actually an important part of how we grow and it’s not a stop sign I love that failure is actually not a stop sign of some people come like we’ll have an obstacle on the go oh, this is a sign that I’m not supposed to doing the thing? No, it’s actually the thing you have to learn how to overcome to get to the next bucket level sometimes.


Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.


Lesley Logan
Welcome back to the be it till you see it interview recap where my co host and life Brad and I are going to dig into the positively competent convo I had with Simone Knego in our last episode if you haven’t yet listened to that one you should listen to it now. I’m gonna say positively competent convo I had with Simone Knego did get on that can we just say that those words together positively competent convo with Simone Knego. Like there’s it’s like one of those like, She sells seashells down by the seashore. I know you should have heard me yesterday when I was filming tutorials for the barrel stack okay, I had to keep saying see shaper. See shaper see shaper and it was really hard not to say shaper. Like you will say like you say it like I’m Leslie Logan here to talk about criss cross on the sea shaper and then it’s like the C shape or the t shirt you just keep saying it starts to blend into su words. Hi guys anyways, today

Brad Crowell 1:59
it was a third take through that intro by the way.

Lesley Logan 2:02
I was reading the wrong one slang. It’s okay listen to the outtakes at the end. You’ll hear it out here. So today is May 9 And it’s all last sock Memorial Day. This is when you do due to or what’s a memorial song?

Brad Crowell 2:18
Do I have no idea what immortal Okay,

Lesley Logan 2:21
so the origin of last sock Memorial Day is as big a mystery as the whereabouts are the socks. The day is meant to memorialize. But socks have been around for centuries. And it’s clear Americans love their socks and 2018 in the US alone we purchased over $11 billion in socks. Most men wear socks every day including those particularly fashionable guys who wear socks with sandals Brad what hardly oh my gosh, you guys are ugly. We’re so lucky. We know he wears socks with his sandals all all the time his socks and stocks all the time. So I believe rock industry continues to grow in sales and expand in variety. Gone are the days of the one color one style sock Hello

Brad Crowell 2:57
Who does that boring

Lesley Logan 2:58
I know I’m back to crew socks that I love it. Today socks are multiple purposes and are manufactured perform based on neat of course the dress the trouser sock is neutral colors exist for professionals, or fancy occasions for the markets for fun and functional socks are making a name for themselves. There are themed graphics like it keeps going I have Star Wars I’m going to skip to the end. So apparently they did a survey. And it said that the average person loses 1.3 SOCKS per month what that is over 15 SOCKS per person per year. So you can see that this is universally hits home and it causes us all distress when sock goes missing major distress. In fact, today we stand together to pay tribute to our deeply departed socks and this is where the song would come on. And

Brad Crowell 3:42
it would be amazing because it causes so much stress that I decided with the help of my favorite chat bot to write an ode to my last suck. Okay, so here we go Jeffro should be singing this Oh noble sock, vanishing into the abyss of the laundry is dark realm. Once snugly paired now solitary you wander alone, a solitary helm in the labyrinth of mismatched pairs your absence leaves a longing overwhelm

Lesley Logan 4:14
long and overwhelmed. That’s how it finished up on chat TV.

Brad Crowell 4:18
Ah Hey, who said that?

Lesley Logan 4:21
I don’t know who your favorite is. I that’s what I know. That’s all you guys I don’t even I don’t even use a chatbot I don’t I don’t use I don’t have any AI. That’s what my team is for. Okay, back to the regular scheduled program upcoming events and travel get ready get your get your pen and paper out and paper out OPC summer camp is less than a month away June one and we are hoping for the biggest biggest summer camp Edberg. If you don’t have to attend live you can watch the replays. So what you can do to go is go to OPC that means slash events plural and you will see we have 14 events and you can buy them ala carte. You can buy a day pass or you buy both day passes. The savings is On the day pass, I will tell you that at any rate, I’m teaching one event and we have 13 other teachers from around the world. I’m so excited. We have a variety of classes and workshops and all different pieces of equipment, spinning different topics we’ve got, like Heather Ingram is doing Empower Matt. It’s a resiliency mat class for those who have who had breast cancer or have are going through it. I’m super excited about that. We have Aaron Donohue doing a pelvic floor mat class. Super stoked about that. We also have workshops on knee pain, we have one a chair class, a couple reformer classes, a Tower of Power with the head tower power, happy hour with Lisa, I can keep going, it’s gonna be great. We have 1414. So seven classes, seven workshops, over two days, come alive for the party. Watch the replays whenever you want. But you got to buy them before they go into full price. I’m just saying. So obviously that means slash events June 1 And second is going to be when we go live. Yeah.

Brad Crowell 5:58
And if you sign up for any of them, whether you pick ala carte, or you buy the full day pass, you actually have access to the replay indefinitely. Yeah. in perpetuity, in perpetuity forever ever. For Finiti Cambodia

Lesley Logan 6:15
earlybird is happening as this is happening. So if you are on the waitlist, got the email, and if you aren’t on the waitlist, you don’t get it. So you have to wait. Well,

Brad Crowell 6:24
if you want to get on the waitlist right now go to With portal that’s plural. So that’s

Lesley Logan 6:31
gonna be our February event because October is very sold out. Yeah, first of all down super not an option. So February

Brad Crowell 6:39
in and yeah, February, we’re gonna go the 25th I think for 23 to 28, something like that. It’s the end of Feb. It’s

Lesley Logan 6:46
after it’s after the Lunar New Year. So you know, we’ll be past the high season of travel and

Brad Crowell 6:52
it’s gonna be great. I’m really, really fired up and we’re gonna have an amazing group at that point in the year as well. Next up, we got Summer Tour summer.

Lesley Logan 7:01
We are doing a summer tour. We’re not doing the West Coast tour. This time we’re doing the summer we’re doing I don’t know it was the Midwest. Yeah. And I’m super excited because I’ve been back to Milwaukee since 2018. I

Brad Crowell 7:12
know it’s been a minute and in fact, you’ve never done Minnesota and we’re looking at I’ve never been to Minnesota. I got locked in. It’s not confirmed yet, but we’re working on it literally right now.

Lesley Logan 7:22
We’re gonna get back to Chicago for the first time since 2018.

Brad Crowell 7:25
Yeah, this time we’re gonna hit Cleveland, but on the summer tour, and then we’re gonna go south back through the Midwest. So we’re looking at like, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City. Yeah, we’re even looking at Colorado Springs, y’all.

Lesley Logan 7:41
Yeah. So at any rate, you want to go to Yeah, get

Brad Crowell 7:45
yourself on the waitlist for the tour. We’re going to start talking about it and opening up the doors for that in earnest after summer camp. So yeah, first is summer camp. After that. We’ll do the Summer Tour. Yeah.

Speaker 1 7:55
Barrels flashcard. Oh, my goodness. So actually

Brad Crowell 7:59
lots of progress.

Lesley Logan 8:00
Here’s the thing. This might be the last chance get on the waitlist, because based on one’s is coming out and our presale is very, very, very sorted. It could be happening as we speak. I’m not really certain on that. So here’s the deal. You want to go to waitlist, it’s a lot. It’s a mouthful. Ready. waitlist, all in a word. So only people on the waitlist will get the presale price. The pre sale price is the best price you don’t want to miss out on that.

Brad Crowell 8:28
Oh, this is a new exciting news that les is looking at me like do we want to talk about this? Maybe maybe not.

Lesley Logan 8:36
No, I’m skipping it. We’re skipping it. There’s other people who need to hear about that first. Okay.

Brad Crowell 8:40
All right. Well, we have something very exciting, well, secret that we will share

Lesley Logan 8:45
later. Because come back maybe next week, but not just me doing that.

Brad Crowell 8:48
Alright, so lastly, but

Lesley Logan 8:51
not leastly is the elevate my mentorship program for amazing teachers

Brad Crowell 8:57
to say lastly, but not less late. Oh.

Lesley Logan 9:01
All right. All right. So if you look at the OBC summer camp, all the teachers have been through my mentorship program. So they will to see how they teach and like their personalities and their styles. And I couldn’t pick every grad. So for the grads listening, it’s not like I skipped you. There. I only do so many. But I I was able to see the teaching, and I was able to at that time pick them. I’m not saying that. That’s why you should elevate you should do elevate because it makes you fucking badass. Yeah, and I actually just got a message from one of our grads who was kind of treated like a little bit like crap at work. And she actually took a moment and asked for a meeting. And then she asked what she want that meeting. She got what she wanted that meeting and she was able to remember like a year before being so scared to have a meeting. And now she’s like comparing herself to herself. It’s like, I know I’m good. And so if you are wanting competence in your teaching and your power and your awesomeness, and you are already a comprehensively to mean teacher, go to Leslie Leslie Logan, that CEO slash Ew, that’s going to get you on the waitlist. The people on the waitlist are the ones who and we invited to apply. And we’re not probably doing applications until after summer camp to be completely honest. I’m I’m 100% positive about that. But we have to fill 2025 early so you guys can plan your life around this amazing experience. Yeah. And it’s virtual my mentorship is virtual you can come in person around for is like all up a whole bunch of people out there all the time. I love it so much. So anyways,

Brad Crowell 10:37
we also people who are all over the world as literally not an option to come in person. So yeah, it was designed to be virtual. Just we got a couple of people who were like, Can I drop in?

Lesley Logan 10:45
And then we’re like, Sure. And then people just keep coming. And now it’s like, it’s amazing. We know a guy named Kevin around the corner who Airbnbs his place. So we met Kevin, we don’t we actually have never met Kevin but okay, so we thought we gotta get into some Alan. But before we do that, do we have an audience? Question?

Brad Crowell 11:02
We sure do. This is from Daniella on Instagram, on the ad G. Is there a cheap reformer that you can recommend? Dr. Leslie? No, there isn’t.

Lesley Logan 11:15
There’s not there is not there isn’t? Here’s the deal. If you are looking for appeal applies equipment you can afford. Check out a window chair, check out a spine corrector check out the ControlLogix line. The spine corrector is about $700 When a chair I want to say is like 1200 and might be a little bit better. Look, I don’t know what the price is already done this exact moment. But yes, that’s still expensive. But it is a piece of code that doesn’t take up a lot of space. You can have an amazing workout on it. It will support your mat practice. And it’s not for

Brad Crowell 11:41
rolling it around. It doesn’t break either. Yeah. You

Lesley Logan 11:45
know, and so the best performer is a ControlLogix reformer. And then there’s other reforms that are also amazing. But any reformer, that’s really going to get you the results you want isn’t me over $3,000 I’m sorry. I hate to break it to you. That’s just how it goes. They’re hard to make they have hundreds of parts. Like it’s just a complicated and when there is a cheaper form are out there that you’re seeing, like Costco or some like that, it’s probably doesn’t have springs, it probably doesn’t have the weight limit. Most easel springs, right? It’s not going to have the foot bar that moves around. So check out my video on YouTube about choosing a home or farmer and you will hear why I cannot tell you about a cheaper farmer that I would ever recommend. Yeah,

Brad Crowell 12:27
so just go to a search lesson Logan home reformer or we’ll put it in the show. It’s

Lesley Logan 12:34
a YouTube video. So thank you for your question, Daniela. I’m so sorry. I’m the bearer of bad news. But also, you know what one of my clients she has a tower and a wooden chair in her entryway of her townhouse. And she’s had an a spine corrector now she misses reformer. Absolutely. She actually doesn’t have space for it. So this is what we’re doing. And it’s really quite exciting. You’d be surprised what you can get out of having a spine Correct. I have another client that I teach online who only has a mat and I want to cheer and you know, like it’s great. It’s amazing. We work out every week together. So anyway, thanks for asking good questions. Send your questions in via pod we will answer them here and and that’s that’s that heard it

Brad Crowell 13:14
here first, peeps. Okay. Now let’s talk about Simone. Can I go Simone, a keynote speaker and author of the extraordinary an ordinary you is renowned for her journey from CPA to a dedicated advocate for women with experiences in teaching medical sales and charitable works. She uses her diverse background of inspire and empower confidence in others. Simona is also the host of the daughter dears podcast, furthering her impact on personal development. I just want to do a brag for Simone. She summited Mount Kilimanjaro. Kilimanjaro, the big one. It’s pretty cool.

Lesley Logan 13:50
It’s really cool. Also, I was on the daughter ders podcast. So I would go listen to my episode. It’s a great way to break into the daughter dears podcast, I look got to talk to her daughter Olivia. And, and also Simone and Nate has asked really great questions, and we had a really great conversation. So highly recommend that you go listen to that episode. And then you can see if you really like it. I think her podcasts is really great. I love this a mother daughter podcast, and they talk about really amazing things someone has just, she’s also just freaking cool. And she has the coolest tennis shoes. Oh, it just came out. Yeah, it just came out

Brad Crowell 14:28
the episode. I’m gonna put the I’m going to put the link to that in the show notes.

Lesley Logan 14:33
While he’s doing that. Here’s the deal. I loved that she is a very big believer that it’s okay to change your mind. I think that’s really something we we I for fucking sure have a really hard time doing this. Brad has been the reason why all like, he taught me how to cancel plans. He’s like I said, but we told him to do that. He’s like, Well, we changed our mind. We can’t we’re not or we aren’t doing the thing that was over there. So we can’t do the thing with them that’s over there. So it’s gonna have Change. And I’m like, oh my god, people get mad. So anyways, I just absolutely love that she, that she said this. And I think it’s a great point for all of us. But until I see it people to remember that it’s okay to change your mind. And trying different things also means that she has to fail and some of it and I think that that’s also a really cool thing, you’re gonna fail forward, really, especially if you learn from it. She actually believes that failure is actually an important part of how we grow. And it’s not a stop sign. I love that. Failure is actually not a stop sign of some people come like we’ll have an obstacle on the go, oh, this is a sign that I’m so busy doing the thing? No, it’s actually the thing you have to learn how to overcome to get to the next fucking level, sometimes, you know what I mean? People Oh, door closed at the sign of necessity after that thing. You know what I mean? It’s like, no one thinks about that with dating. By the way, no one goes up that day, it was honestly me alone for my date set. So that means I’m not meant to be with anybody. You know what I mean? But we think about that with anything that we want to do in our life, or like, Oh, no one responded to my post. So I’m not good enough, whatever. And it’s like that, what are you talking about? These are not stop signs. These are just feedback. And she also mentioned that we should embrace failure. And to understand failures don’t equal your worth. I love this. Because all the people that we admire, who are amazing business, people, whatever, they all fail on a lot of things. One of our coaches, literally coaches, people on book titles, and all these things. And he talks endlessly about how he titled one of his books terribly wrong.

Brad Crowell 16:36
And he argued, he argued for this title that he has now concluded later is terribly wrong. It’s terribly wrong. Like he was convinced this is going to be the best amazing title ever.

Lesley Logan 16:48
Yeah, more or less. And so but he has used it as a way to help others not have that same thing. So it’s kind of we, you know, these fail, we should call them other things. This is some words that need rebranding. And failure is one of them. It’s a sliding step. Yeah. Yeah, I don’t know. I’m not the marketing people here. But I’m just saying it needs a new thing. Well, I’ll your needs a PR person,

Brad Crowell 17:17
we need a PR person for failure. Alright, here’s what I really loved. She was talking about Kilimanjaro. Actually, really, really fascinating side note, she said that we apparently have 6000, roughly 6000 thoughts a day and 80% of them are negative what the eff

Lesley Logan 17:33
I know. And also most of them are repetitive. They’re the same thoughts as before. I’m like, who’s counting these thoughts? Ding, ding. And also, do you ever wonder like, okay, as the overachiever in the room, the recovering one? I’m like, a bit, you have more?

Brad Crowell 17:49
A bit, you have more negative thoughts than you know,

Lesley Logan 17:52
I’m not. I’m not fighting for those. But that’s funny.

Brad Crowell 17:55
She said, when she was climbing Kilimanjaro. First off, it was like, a process to even get there and the mental battle to you know, write off the people who are who are basically challenging her. Or do you think you’re actually going to make it? You know, like, yeah, I fucking do. Why do you think I’m going to I’m just going to do this. So I can go to the base. But

Lesley Logan 18:16
what needs me fucking train on proper responses in life? Just yeah, that’s here’s the thing. When someone gets married, you don’t have to ask them if they’re having a baby. When someone said they’re gonna climb a mountain. You don’t have to ask them. Do you think you’re gonna fucking finish it? Yeah, what happens? If

Brad Crowell 18:30
you follow? It says I’m going to open a Pilates studio. Do your friends go? Really? That’s so risky. Are you going to do that? Yeah. Well, yes. If they say that,

Lesley Logan 18:37
then and it’s one or the other. If that is you, if I just said, if I just said a response that you think you’ve done, first of all, give yourself permission to never do it again. And also let it go. You did it and now you know better. But it I get it. Like I have a girlfriend who I just was having coffee with and she has a four year old. And there is a part of me that wants to know, does she want to have another guess what I didn’t do ask? I kept it to my fucking cell. If she wants to tell me if she’s having another, she will tell me. It’s not my business. That’s fun. Anyways, well,

Brad Crowell 19:08
so she she was talking about while she was climbing Kilimanjaro. She was actually having this internal argument with herself. And she had to, you know, continue to encourage her own self and challenge herself while she was climbing the hill, y’all. And she said, when you once you got back home, it was really exhilarating. You know, it was quite a moment that she could be proud of. And she said, the challenge of it was something that she isn’t going to forget she see challenged us to find our own Kilimanjaro and in a figurative sense, not necessarily a literal sense. Although, if any of you decide to go climb Kilimanjaro, tell us because we will cheer you along. There’ll be also

Lesley Logan 19:55
the other Kilimanjaro climber we’ve had because now we’ve had to Jen

Brad Crowell 19:59
Did she climb a clique is Kilimanjaro the second highest? So yeah, it’s

Lesley Logan 20:03
okay to see we have had to I remember on her first attempt, two people died. Yeah. So she turned around, turn around. And then she did it again. She actually did it again. But guess what she’s doing? She’s creating a like retreat of some kind where you will climb with her? Oh, wow. And I was like, wow. And she’s like, Yeah, are you in and I was like, probably not. So excited for you, and everyone is doing it with you, because I’m gonna go with Simone and find my own Kilimanjaro. When I’m on my own. I’m gonna say, owning the businesses we have feels like fucking climbing Kilimanjaro every day. So I’m good. Note it. I got it. Well, you

Brad Crowell 20:45
know, she actually said it was not part of her bucket list. And she did it as part of a charity work to raise money for the LIVESTRONG Foundation. And people asked her what it would feel like if she didn’t reach the summit. And she said, honestly, it wasn’t about reaching the summit for her. It was the mindset that got her there. Like I was saying one step at a time continuing to encourage yourself, she did talk herself up, not down so many times during the climb due to self doubt. Right, and then having summitted Kilimanjaro and surmounted her negative self talk, that’s why she’s encouraging everyone to go find their own Kilimanjaro because it was a challenge. And it was it was probably quite scary. And you know, what a conversation we’re having in your head, if you actually do doubt yourself making it to the top? Well, I just think is great, though. Because you know, and you’re Kilimanjaro doesn’t have to be an extra. It doesn’t have to be physical. It could be, you know, Kilimanjaro, it could be weighing nice to that person who’s consistently an asshole to you. You know, it could be, it could be right. Like, I said, I’m not, I’m not a parent. So I don’t have to go to like PTA meetings. I don’t have to go to soccer games to stay on the sidelines.

Lesley Logan 21:59
We gotta dig neighbor that we have to like we do. Yeah, that’s my mountain calling drought.

Brad Crowell 22:04
I’m still working on that. There’s,

Lesley Logan 22:07
there’s like, Okay, you guys, when we walk past this one house, also passes one house is the view of a building that shall remain nameless, because I envision the name of this building, burning off the building every single day. And so maybe my mountain Kilimanjaro is just not noticed these two things that I have to walk past, that might be it. Or maybe it’s just like not having negative thoughts while I do it. But at any rate, find your own. Ask us later, if we found ours, that can be a question you ask. And

Brad Crowell 22:36
like I said before, you know whether it’s literal Kilimanjaro or figured out if you’ve got something that you are going to tackle, and you want us to cheer you on. Tell us Yeah,

Lesley Logan 22:46
well, and also you can send us your wins when you do because we have an FY EPS but and I just want to reiterate, she was focusing on overcoming her negative thoughts to get her up there to talk herself up, like you said, it’s okay to talk yourself up.

Brad Crowell 22:59

Lesley Logan 23:00
I think it’s really important. And also, like Brad said, we want to cheer you on. If you don’t ask us to cheer you on. That’s totally fine, not offended. But tell people in your life, this is really important to me, and how you react to me doing this thing is also really important to me, you know, Brené Brown, as the person who taught me the people whose opinions of you matter, they should know that their opinions of you matter. Yeah. And so if you have someone in your life who you love, and whenever you tell him, you’re doing something that scares you, they kind of shit around it, then you need to have a talk with them. It says, When I tell you what I’m excited about. And we you respond with doubt. It’s really hard for me to stay excited. So I would really love it. If when I say something that I’m excited about that you just say I’m excited for you. And then take your fears and talk to your other friend about it.

Brad Crowell 23:53
Or another time not in the moment. Yeah,

Lesley Logan 23:55
yeah. Yeah. Cuz, you know, they think they’re being curious, but their curiosity is actually

Brad Crowell 24:00
negative shanks. Yeah, um, you

Lesley Logan 24:04
know, Dr. Pepper, no, Sprite. We don’t do those things around here. Okay, let’s go to those be. At least a Dr. Pepper is better. I still haven’t had you know, I haven’t had soda since I was 18 years old.

Brad Crowell 24:16
Oh, really? Yeah. That’s impressive. I’ve definitely had soda since I know it’s terrible for you. Yeah. I mean, I don’t have it all the time.

Lesley Logan 24:23
It doesn’t even matter. It’s like it clears off battery acid from a car you should not be drinking.

Brad Crowell 24:30
This is true. It does that. All right. Finally let’s talk about those be it action items what bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items. Can we take away from your combo with Simone can Nago, she said that she uses affirmations on a daily basis. And then she told a really hilarious story about her daughter being like, I have nothing to be happy about today. And she was like, Oh, yes, you do. Let me tell you how. And then her daughter was like, I’m never telling that to you again. But

Lesley Logan 24:56
you know what? Simone just was that guys That’s an example of the response people in your life should be saying to you, yeah, when you’re like, nobody likes me, you should have someone’s like, Nope, this person, this person, this person, this person, last person. Somebody goes, oh my god, it’s so true. No one likes you. Yeah, right.

Brad Crowell 25:13
So right, everyone hates you.

Lesley Logan 25:16
Yeah, you do. So did you know that this person also?

Brad Crowell 25:22
She said, it’s important that we constantly ask ourselves what we want, so that you can get what you need. Right? Because I think, you know, the two of you were talking about effectively, just doing life and being sucked into the whirlwind that I like to call the whirlwind. And there are times where we feel like we need to make a change to tackle something big, right? I’ve often over the years, I’ve had moments in my life where I’m like, Okay, I’m gonna have to kick it into high gear, right? And and that might be for the next six months, or whatever it might be right? And she said, we kind of forget to change it up. We just get stuck in this thing. So whether that is oh,

Lesley Logan 26:08
you You mean, you’re like the truck that just gets the press accelerate just floors it and yeah.

Brad Crowell 26:16
lived at one of those trucks. The Tesla, the Tesla truck,

Lesley Logan 26:20
they’re called something else. They’re called. This has happened, guys. So obviously, you’re gonna know when we did this, but it’s called the

Brad Crowell 26:26
cyber truck, the cyber, the cyber truck has flopped and just issued a recall shocking, because the accelerator literally gets stuck to the floor, and then it’s stuck in high that is accelerated.

Lesley Logan 26:37
That’s a lot of you, you guys get stuck. You like you.

Brad Crowell 26:41
I mean, me too. I’ve done it too. Right. I

Lesley Logan 26:42
do it all the time. But you’re also Enneagram three. So that’s true. But like, it’s you forget that you also have another gear, which is called Slow? Well, it’s not.

Brad Crowell 26:52
It’s not just that. But we when we kick into high gear, there’s one consistent common factor that suffers and that is yourself. Because you’re like, I don’t need to deal with me right now I need to focus on this thing. I need to focus on my family, my daughter, my, you know, my partner is going through law school, whatever it is, right? And you’re, you’re shifting everything around to support this cause. And, you know, there comes a time where you’re like, hey, wait a minute, you know, what do I actually want? Because it might be that the two of you or on a team or you know, there is this thing where you’re consistently sacrificing, but you also need to make sure you’re taking care of yourself. And if you don’t ask yourself, what do I want? How are you going to know? Yeah, I thought about this when I was listening to the interview, you know, and I love running our company and traveling and all the things. And I asked myself, What do I want? And I like literally the answer was instantaneous sleep. You know, and so it’s like, okay, maybe I need to be more intentional about sleep. And then I won’t. That won’t be my guttural response

Lesley Logan 28:01
on something else. Yeah, yeah, they’re gonna want something else. Yeah. So anyway,

Brad Crowell 28:05
ask yourself, what do you want? Right? And, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 28:10
well, I’ll go Yeah, go.

Lesley Logan 28:12
So she said, respect your reflections. We need to learn to love the woman or the man or the person in the mirror, like

Brad Crowell 28:21
the reflection asleep.

Lesley Logan 28:22
Know what I need to know. No, no, no, no. Literal reflections, your literal reflection,

Brad Crowell 28:28
okay, literal reflection.

Lesley Logan 28:29
So she wants us to be who we are. So that when we look in the mirror, the first thing we see is what we actually love. And that’s us. It’s ourselves. And the truth is, is that so many of us are comparing ourselves to others. When we’re actually looking in the mirror. We’re comparing ourselves, you know, to like something unattainable, and then we’re nitpicking. And really, it’s just like, get it just focus. Like yeah, to love the person. And you’re always love

Speaker 1 28:52
the one you’re with. Yeah. Love the one. You wasted something earlier that that was a better so I love the one we’re looking at in the mirror. Yeah, no,

Lesley Logan 29:01
that was not the song either. There was another song earlier. I don’t remember. It’ll come back. Oh, you said we don’t get as we want. We ate and I was like, we can’t I hate that song. When you get it. You can’t always get what you want on. And he just keeps repeating that, but I

Brad Crowell 29:19
just my he gave me

Lesley Logan 29:24
like, oh my god, what was that music? Good. Anyway, Simone, You’re fabulous. Thank you for teaching us all. Oh, I missed this part.

Brad Crowell 29:32
This is important. This is important. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 29:34
She said that 20% of people are born with confidence. So 80% of us have to work with it. If you’re listening to this, and you’re like, I’m struggle with confidence. It’s because you’re probably part of the 80%. And so we’ll work on it. And Simone with her Mount Kilimanjaro situation, that’s how she was able to she committed to something and she did the thing. And she that’s

Brad Crowell 29:53
coaches, women on Khan competence.

Lesley Logan 29:55
She literally said when were with her last week, she said women instead of asking for a raise, we’ll just look for another job. And really, competence comes like ask for the raise, even if you don’t get it like the girl I’ve talked about earlier about Elevate, she like went in there and she asked what she wanted. And what I saw when I saw the video telling me about it was she was so fucking competent because she did the thing, right? The things that scare us or the things like put us in a confident bucket. So just go do that. All right, Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell
And I’m Brad Crawley.

Lesley Logan
Thank you so much for listening, or watching or how are reading this? I don’t know how you’re doing it. Anyway, we’re so grateful for you. This is due here. This is episode 365 Holy cow, holy cow. We’re here because of you. And if it’s your first time, we’re still here because of you. Well, thank you so much for being here. Make sure you share this podcast with a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, be it till you see it.

Brad Crowell
Bye for now.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over on IG at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @be_it_pod.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell
Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

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