The Truth About Finding
Your Highest Self

Ep. 491 with Lesley & Brad

“I actually could just tap into my soul and then I get to be my highest self.”

Lesley Logan

Bio

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Tap into your inner wisdom with Christina Deering, a shaman, healer, and intuitive business coach. In this episode, Lesley and Brad break down Christina’s insights on aligning with your highest self, overcoming limiting beliefs, and using intuitive tools like pendulums and tapping. Discover how to embrace daydreaming as a manifestation technique and reprogram your mindset for success.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Understanding your highest self as an extension of your soul.
• Breaking free from limiting beliefs and societal conditioning.
• Using intuitive tools like pendulums and tapping for clarity.
• The power of daydreaming as a manifestation tool.
• Aligning your energy with your goals for greater success.
• Recognizing and shifting emotional vibrations for better decision-making.

Episode References/Links:

• Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist – https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Spring Pilates Training – https://opc.me/events
• Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator – https://prfit.biz/accelerator
• Accessories Flashcards Waitlist – https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
• Christina Deering Website –  www.christinadeering.com
• Christina’s Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/iamchristinadeering
• Free Gift – 5 Min Energy Reset – https://beitpod.com/energyreset

Transcript

Lesley Logan 0:05
It’s not a waste of time.

Brad Crowell 0:06
Well, it’s not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it’s the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have, that everything’s gonna crash around us. It’s all coming to an end.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intuitive convo I have with Christina Deering in our last episode. If you haven’t yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen, or stay here and then listen later. You can do both, because she’s an intuitive so you’re going to want to do both.

Today is February 27th 2025 and it’s Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day, a significant day. Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day is marked annually at the end of February during engineering week. This year, it takes place on February 27th. This day was founded by the National Society of Professional Engineers (N.S.P.E.) in 1951. According to N.S.P.E., didn’t you love that? I like to discover things as we’re.

Brad Crowell 1:52
That’s news to me.

Lesley Logan 1:53
I like, learn this as you’re learning it, everyone.

Brad Crowell 1:56
She clearly previews all the work that goes into these show notes.

Lesley Logan 2:03
Oh my God. Engineering Week aims to ensure a diverse and well-educated future engineering workforce by increasing understanding of and interest in engineering and technology careers. I just want to say.

Brad Crowell 2:14
That was written by an engineer.

Lesley Logan 2:16
Totally wise and you can’t say engineering week and describe it as a like a definition, and then use engineering in the definition of what the week is. You gotta, I don’t actually think I know what engineering is so. Did you know since the origins of STEM fields in the 18th century (the Age of Enlightenment) have remained predominantly male? Yeah, we knew this. It’s a burgeoning issue calling for an urgent redress. One of the main ways that this is being done is through the creation of scholarships for women. So I think that’s so cool. There was a model who had like, coder weeks. Is coding engineering?

Brad Crowell 2:56
Yeah, we can, it’s a form of engineering. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 2:58
Is engineering anything to do with computers?

Brad Crowell 3:00
Well, there are software engineers. But, yes, engineers could be structural engineers or mechanical engineers or, you know, aviation has engineering.

Lesley Logan 3:11
So this is not a niche week.

Brad Crowell 3:13
No, I think it’s general. You could have software engineers who are developers. Sure.

Lesley Logan 3:17
Here’s the thing. Clearly, I wasn’t introduced to engineering during Engineering Week when I was a child, even though it was started in 1951 so we have lots of work to do and.

Brad Crowell 3:26
I wonder if architects are considered engineers, or how does that work? Do they work together? I mean, you know, they’re building. An engineer would build a bridge.

Lesley Logan 3:35
Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So then maybe Meridith’s partner is an engineer. So we know engineers.

Brad Crowell 3:42
Well, he is, he’s a mechanical, no, he’s a structural engineer. Can’t remember. Yeah, we know engineers.

Lesley Logan 3:47
We love you.

There’s one in our family. We should know.

So anyways, I just thought this was a really cool holiday. When Brad was showing me the holidays, I thought it was a cool holiday because, obviously, when we expose people to different jobs that they could do, we actually bring in really cool experiences into those jobs. And engineers are, obviously, have a vast amount of things that they could work in and that are necessary. And so life experiences that are different than others are really important. And so here’s to Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day. I too was just introduced. So there we go. All right, so as you listen to this, we are in Cambodia.

Brad Crowell 4:26
Right now, as you are listening. We are so excited.

Lesley Logan 4:29
Oh my gosh. And also, the people who are coming, I’m just excited for this week that we’re having with them. So anyways, you guys have to join us in October. Seriously, I know that you’ve got a lot on your plate. You got a lot going on. October feels like, a far way away, but we, actually, it’s not. And it’s the perfect time to just have something in your Q4 to look forward to. So go to crowsnestretreats.com and join us, because we want to spend a week with you. We want to retreat from the chaos of this world and just sweat and do Pilates and breath work and see temples. And Lotus farms and eat good food.

Brad Crowell 5:03
Yeah, it’s, I mean, elephants, friends, make friends. It’s, you know, explore a city.

Lesley Logan 5:08
You don’t have to come with a friend. You can come by yourself, because we, we’ll provide the friends.

Brad Crowell 5:13
Yeah, we do. You’re guaranteed a friend.

Lesley Logan 5:17
You are. You’ve got a friend in me.

Brad Crowell 5:21
Well, in March, a month from now, we will be a P.O.T. in Denver, Colorado. P.O.T is Pilates on Tour, if you’re not familiar, although I.

Lesley Logan 5:30
It’s sold out.

Brad Crowell 5:31
I think it’s sold out.

Lesley Logan 5:32
Yeah, it’s sold out. Can’t come. Well, last time we checked, we were, I think they had a couple spots on Sunday, which we’ll be there for. I’m teaching every single day. I’m keynoting.

Brad Crowell 5:42
I know. Keynote speaker, Lesley.

Lesley Logan 5:46
Oh my God. So anyways, you’ll come if you can, and if there’s spots, if not, we’ll see you in Chicago. But also in March, Brad doesn’t know this yet, March 18th through the 24th is the Accessories Flash Dard presale. See, Meridith and I just scheduled it right now.

Brad Crowell 6:04
What?

Lesley Logan 6:06
Yes and so the date has been set. Only those on the waitlist are going to get the invite. So you need to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, and that is going to get you the opportunity to get this, the latest and last deck, 30% off. And by the way, the Accessory Deck is for all the bodies, everybody. And we’re going to have a lot of fun celebrating who got the cards, Meridith and I have a bunch of tricks and things planned up our sleeve, but you have to be on the waitlist to hear about it. So sorry. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist.

Brad Crowell 6:40
Yeah, but you get the hook up by being on it. So do it. Get yourself over there. All right, next up in April. Guess what, y’all? OPC is gonna be doing a spring training in April. This is gonna be April 27th through May. 3rd. Ten events across a week. You’re gonna be able to join us virtually no matter where you are, whether you’re watching them live or watching replays.

Lesley Logan 7:03
You don’t have to have Pilates experience to join us. You don’t have to have equipment. There’s going to be options for a mat only track, and then equipment plus mat track and Meridith and I did the math. Well, Meridith did the math. I’ll just, why am I taking credit? It’s like $6 per class if you have the mat ticket or something like that. So, you know, it’s such a steal. Anyways, so opc.me/events gets you on to the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird price. Those not on the waitlist will get to pay the full price, which is still a good deal, but on the waitlist, it’s a great price.

Brad Crowell 7:37
Yeah, it’s a steal. It’s a steal for the early bird. It’s still an amazing deal.

Lesley Logan 7:41
OPC members. Will get it for free. So if you want it for free, be an OPC member.

Brad Crowell 7:46
Yeah, but to get on the waitlist for all that go to opc.me/events or just put it in your calendar right now, April 27th through May 3rd, just mark it off and be like OPC Spring Training. It’s going to be super fun. We’re doing spring training this year instead of summer camp. Okay? To be honest, people, I, we were getting confused between summer tour and summer camp. So we said this is dumb. Why don’t we not make it a summer thing?

Lesley Logan 8:11
We have a spring, summer, winter, and then, I guess, retreat in the fall. But it’s not fall weather in Cambodia.

Brad Crowell 8:19
So technically.

Lesley Logan 8:20
But it’s in the fall but it’s not a fall event, so we’re only doing three events.

Brad Crowell 8:25
It’s going to be amazing. It’s going to be amazing. Anyway, go to opc.me/events. Okay, finally, if you are taking money from a client and teaching them Pilates or yoga or whatever, if you are a fitness business owner in that way, I want you to come join me for a free webinar. Lesley and I have been teaching, coaching fitness business owners just like you, for more than seven years now. I can’t believe Agency is seven years old. I’m doing a free webinar called Studio Growth Accelerator. So if you want to learn the three biggest secrets that we have learned from coaching more than 2500 people, come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That’s profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator and come join me for free.

All right, before we move on, here, we have an audience question from Jennifer Carbone. She asks does the Arkantos Pilates chair, Split-pedal stability combo chair with handles, does it work for your workouts?

Lesley Logan 9:28
Here’s what I appreciate. I appreciate how specific she told me.

Brad Crowell 9:32
I think she copied the names off the website.

Lesley Logan 9:34
I mean, clearly, I think so too. So I think that for anyone listening who’s just like, what did he just say? Do split-pedal combo chairs work for my workout?

Brad Crowell 9:44
Is this one or two pieces of equipment?

Lesley Logan 9:46
Well, it’s, well, it’s two. So most.

Arkantos Pilates chair is different from the split-pedal stability combo chair?

No, no, it’s that chair. And then nope, that’s not her chair. That’s our chair. So it’s like that, but it’s a combo chair with handles. They’re just using all the SEO terms to make the name of the thing. It’s just, it’s a bunch of marketing. So at any rate, yes.

Brad Crowell 10:06
Oh yeah, she copied it straight off from Amazon.

Lesley Logan 10:08
So yeah, she did. Okay. So, wow, this is a very cheap price. Okay, guys, you’re getting, like, real time. Oh my god, the marketing on it just grosses me out. So here’s the deal.

Brad Crowell 10:19
Look, it does use springs.

Lesley Logan 10:21
No, no, it’s fine. So here’s the thing, if you have a combo chair, a high chair, Wunda chair combo that has the handles, take the handles off. So I don’t really care about the brand, take the handles off. We won’t use them on a Wunda chair class. But then you can use the chair as a Wunda chair. And I can tell from this split-pedal that it can be locked. So it’s a single pedal, so just lock it in place. And then the thing about Wunda chair exercises is that the spring tensions, like this one has four springs, so I’m imagining it has a light and a heavy. Yeah, that has a little lock, so it has a light and a heavy. So what I’m going to say is I don’t know why they call them gears on this guy, someone is copying a reformer and making a Wunda chair. So okay, ignore the gears on this chair, but I’m just gonna talk about Wunda chairs in general. If there’s not a classical Wunda chair, if it has a split pedal, if it has handles, ditch the handles. Make sure you don’t split the pedal. So it’s a single pedal. And then you pick the spring that tension that actually supports your body. So meaning, if I say it’s a top bottom spring for me, but your fun size, it might be a middle bottom. Or if you’re heavier, it might be a little higher. So you always have to choose the right spring tension for you in a Wunda chair class. But my teachers at OPC and I always give suggestions that you can start moving with. And if you have, you’re an OPC member, you can also take a video of you doing an exercise on your chair, and go, am I doing this right? And we can go, oh, you don’t look like you have enough spring tension. Oh, it looks like you have too much. Oh, you might need a block to make the floor rise up. So we will give you personalized feedback. But in general, anything that’s an actual Wunda chair will work. So if it’s combo chair, knock the handles off. That is.

Brad Crowell 12:00
Just knock them off.

Lesley Logan 12:01
Yeah, if they don’t come off.

Brad Crowell 12:03
No, they will. I’m sure they’ll come off.

Lesley Logan 12:05
They look like they remove.

Brad Crowell 12:06
Yeah, they remove, yeah, they can just unscrew it to take them out.

Lesley Logan 12:09
Yeah. I had someone correct me, not correct me, but give me more information, because I have a video about how I don’t like folding reformers. And I said, I don’t like them because all these different things. And people go, well, this company has a $900 one that folds, and it has all the things you want. And I looked at it, and it does. It uses springs. It has a foot bar that lowers down. It still has ropes with high I don’t like that. And the thing that gets me concerned when things are made folding, that you’re actually they will have springs and you’re gonna stand on, is I get concerned about weight restrictions. I get concerned of when the person made this, did they actually know all the Pilates exercises are going to go on it? Because sometimes they don’t. A lot of people, engineers will just.

Brad Crowell 12:51
Engineers

Lesley Logan 12:52
Engineers will. Hey.

Brad Crowell 12:54
Hey.

Lesley Logan 12:55
And this is not an offense to them. But they’ll go, oh, we can make this cheaper by using this and this instead, and this instead. And all of a sudden, you take a piece of equipment that is heavy for a reason, because the moves you’re going to do are rolling on it and moving on it and lifting your legs. And you need the piece of equipment to be durable enough, heavy enough to support your body moving around on top of it. So I cannot attest to any folding reformer that isn’t going to come from a company that I’ve already worked with. I got to try things on because I don’t want to get hurt. I also don’t want you to spend $1,000 on something that might not be the thing you need, or might restrict you from exercises you really want to do.

Brad Crowell 13:33
Or it just might not be the same quality.

Lesley Logan 13:35
Right. If the reformer isn’t high enough off the floor, you cannot do pull straps, you know what I mean? So there’s just exercise you get limited. If it’s too high off the ground, it can affect things. So I get, like, equipment’s expensive. We just place an order and we’re just like, whoo, okay. But please, please, please, please, please, just consider what you’re letting go of and do your research or save up for the thing that you need. That’s what I would say. So anyways, I hope you take class with us. That’s a great chair. We’ll see. Here we go.

Brad Crowell 14:01
Awesome. All right. Well, stick around. We’ll be right back. We’re gonna dig into this amazing conversation you have with Christina Deering.

Okay, now let’s talk about Christina Deering. A shaman, healer, a business intuitive and the host of You Unlimited podcast, Christina is dedicated to helping spiritual entrepreneurs confidently grow their businesses. A former marketing professional for 15 years, she explores modalities like breath work and Reiki, which led her to discover her true calling in shamanism. Today, she blends deep healing practices with practical strategies, enabling clients to overcome imposter syndrome and step into their full potential. On her podcast, You Unlimited, Christina delves into personal growth and the transformative power of intuitive guidance.

Lesley Logan 14:45
Yeah. So I think she was just so sweet. I just really liked her. Yeah. I was on her podcast, and so that was a lot of fun. We had a great conversation there. And I was like, well, I want to hear more about over here. We got to give away one of her masterminds on tour. She’s just such a generous person.

Brad Crowell 14:58
Oh yes, connecting the dots.

Lesley Logan 14:59
So I really love when she talked about turning into your soul’s alignment. She said our highest self, based on what we channeled, that’s our soul. So we are tapping into our soul. So what does your soul desire most to do? And she shared like, our goal is to live in alignment with our soul. And I actually think that this is so hard.

Brad Crowell 15:16
This is the one you were talking about, like, what is the highest self? What does that even mean? And I thought it was good to help define that, because I really appreciated Christina’s pragmatic approach to calling herself a shaman. Because I’m like, uh, the hell is a shaman?

Lesley Logan 15:31
There are some shamans. And I’m like, are you a shaman? You know.

Brad Crowell 15:35
Well, you know she was talking about at the beginning. She was like, yeah. So when I was suggested that I look into becoming a shaman, because I’m being called into being a shaman, she was like, let me Google what is a shaman? And I was laughing because I was like, I was Googling what is a shaman. That was pretty funny. So when she’s talking about her, anyway, I appreciated her sincerity there. But you know, she’s talking about what is the highest self, and she says, that’s like, tapping into your soul.

Lesley Logan 16:00
Yeah. So when people say, like, thinking about your higher self, or what would your higher self want to do? What is it you do here? That’s what your soul is. And I think that’s kind of a cool way to think about it. I never thought of my highest self and my soul being the same thing. And now that I say it out loud, it sounds pretty obvious. So, you know. I don’t know. I just, you know, you just think of them as two separate things. I have a higher self. I guess I think of the highest self as my future. I’ve got my shit together self and my soul is like this deep, like, burning magic.

Brad Crowell 16:33
Your higher self is like, who you hope you’ll end up being one day? That’s kind of how I’ve always thought of it, too.

Lesley Logan 16:38
Yeah. But when she describes it like this, it’s, oh, well, if my. It’s like, what’s happening now.

Brad Crowell 16:42
It’s like, what’s happening now.

Lesley Logan 16:42
Yeah, well, if it’s my higher self is my soul, then I actually don’t have another thing I’ve got to figure out how to be. I could just actually tap into my soul and then I get to be my highest self.

Brad Crowell 16:51
Because I am that right now.

Lesley Logan 16:52
Yeah, this is.

Brad Crowell 16:55
I think we just broke the world.

Lesley Logan 16:57
I think, I think.

Brad Crowell 16:58
We just, we just solved the riddle of the meaning of life.

Lesley Logan 17:00
I feel I’ve, you know, I, It’s really great. So anyways, she advised tap into your soul by using tools like pendulums or intuition exercises. And we actually got to talk about like the pendulums and intuitive exercises. And I find just sitting down for me and for my red light can really help me and just breathe, can really help me get myself calm enough to actually go into thinking about a pendulum or an intuitive exercise, like you kind of have to calm down first and then use some tools. But I think that there’s a lot of different tools that one can use. I also think I get the best ideas in the shower or on a morning walk, you know, like the sun is rising. So there’s, I think maybe the thing that you all can do from this is, like, figure out, like, when do you feel like you’re the closest to tapping into your soul or your higher self? And can you practice that so you can always use it as a tool when you need it.

Brad Crowell 17:50
Yeah, she was talking a lot about spiritual-led entrepreneurialism, the distinction she talked about with your brain versus your higher self, I thought was interesting in that she said, often our brain starts us down these, what if problems or these I got to figure this out problem, or this problem, problem, problem, we’re like creating all this unnecessary stuff that we have to think through. And she said, the mind is meant to serve the heart and soul. It’s not there to create unnecessary problems, but we let ourselves go down that path. So I just thought it was interesting and but also she was talking about the pendulum thing, you know, holding the pendulum and asking questions. And I didn’t quite follow that entire exercise.

Lesley Logan 18:29
Okay, guess what? E-Squared. She has a, in the book E-Squared, we talked about many, many moons ago on this podcast, but she talks about taking a wire hanger and you twist it so it’s at an angle, and then you’re just supposed to hold it, and you can ask questions, and it will turn one way to answer yes or no. It’s kind of crazy. So the pendulum is like that wire hanger. It’s like something that is connected to the energy of your body, and it kind of will answer the question over your head. It’s like, what you want. It’s, okay, I know we just really got somewhere weird. I will pull the book out Brad, and we can look at the chapter.

Brad Crowell 19:06
Hey, look, we’re like a 1.75 woo here.

Lesley Logan 19:09
I know (inaudible), I, but it’s a really interesting thing. I even looked this practice up on because I was like, What is she saying? I don’t think I’m understanding how to make this wire hanger, and also, who has wire hanger? So I didn’t want to screw it up. I had one wire hanger, and I Googled on YouTube, and this woman did it on camera. She’s just holding this thing, and then she’s holding it away that her fingers cannot manipulate the wire so, like she’s holding it, and the wire hanger is just like moving to, yeah, it’s really strange. So we’ll do it. We’ll do it.

Brad Crowell 19:39
Okay, I’m in. One thing I really loved was she talked about breaking through self-imposed limitations. Actually, now that I say that, I don’t think they’re necessarily self-imposed, it could be like societal limitations, parental, you know, limitations or friends or expectations that are just placed on us by our surroundings, environment, like the things that we’re doing. And she said, when we are trying to pursue, you know, and connect with our higher self, our soul, it may be that we’re bumping into these barriers, that this box that we put ourselves in, that’s tough, you know. It’s tough because, first off, it’s hard to identify that you’re bumping into these walls if you don’t even realize that they’re there. But also, how do we identify them? And how do we change that programming? You know, how do we walk away from something that has been ingrained in us for our whole lives? Whatever that might be, that could be a religious faith, or it could be, I don’t know, just something where you’re feeling trapped.

Lesley Logan 20:37
It’s interesting because you had said self-imposed, and you’re like, actually, it’s all these things. I think we impose things on ourselves based on what we’ve picked up is the right, in air quotes, the right thing to do, or the expected thing to do. And so you kind of learn like, oh, I get in trouble in class when I make this noise, so I’m not going to make that noise anymore. You tap your foot a lot teachers today, one of the girls we work out with, she has kids who need to dance while they’re doing the work, so she has them in the back of the room so they can do their work. And they literally dance and do their work. And as long as they are in the back of the room, not distracting people, it’s not a problem. But back when you were in school, they would be like in trouble for tapping. And that means that, first of all, you (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 21:19
I bet I would have been considered a dancer, because I was not, I was flipping around in my chair.

Lesley Logan 21:24
But the point is, is that when you’re a kid, you learn, oh, I get in trouble. It’s bad to do these things. And so then you start to change who you are. And then if you don’t have anyone who gives you permission to be who you are when you’re younger, it becomes this thing you take all the way to your adulthood, and you don’t realize, oh, I’ve been posing all these rules and stories on myself, that didn’t come from you in the first place.

Brad Crowell 21:45
Brad Crowell 21:45
it’s actually, yeah, yeah, or, that’s right, or it’s a learned behavior. One of the things we talk about all the time, and I just couldn’t come up with the example a few minutes ago, was the way we see money.

Lesley Logan 21:56
Oh, yeah.

Brad Crowell 21:56
Our money mindset is how we like to say, but the money mindset, the way that we are coming into that conversation, we are bringing with us a bunch of baggage that most likely we don’t even know where it came from, you know, and we really have to truly sift back through our inner thoughts and childhood to understand, why do we act the way we act around money, or have this relationship with it. So it’s interesting and it’s challenging to identify these walls. So anyway, I thought that was really great. I think it’s really important. When you start to ask yourself, why, I think, actually, that’s a great way to start to identify, why do I hold why do I see this, the way that I see this? Why?

Lesley Logan 22:34
Gay Hendricks would say, he would go, hmm.

Brad Crowell 22:38
Hmm, I like that.

Lesley Logan 22:39
I wonder why. And that’s what he would always say. He always says, I wonder, I wonder. I don’t even think I can see it, I wonder.

Brad Crowell 22:46
He’s got a tattoo that says it on her hand.

Lesley Logan 22:48
But he says, the important thing is the hum, hmm, I wonder why. And he said, the hmm does something to the brain. I forgot. Gay, I’m sorry I forgot what it does, but it does something to the brain that turns on this part of where you think about things, and then the I wonder opens up curiosity versus, why do I do this? It’s like, I wonder. You can’t be mad, you cannot be angry with the wonder word, you have to, like, go I wonder.

Brad Crowell 23:15
I wonder.

Lesley Logan 23:15
I wonder.

Brad Crowell 23:16
I wonder. All right, well, stick around. We’ll be right back. We’re gonna talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from your conversation with Christina Deering.

All right, so finally, let’s talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Christina Deering? Christina explained that daydreaming is not just idle imagination. It’s a way of tapping into future possibilities. She said, hey, when we can visualize it, we’re actually tapping into future timelines.

Lesley Logan 23:50
She is not wrong. I just learned a little bit about how to manifest in a different time, and so.

Brad Crowell 23:58
We’re like, multiversing it over here.

Lesley Logan 23:59
Yes, she said this and I was like, okay, I get that. And then I heard someone else talk about it, and I’m like, oh, I get it. So when she talks about this, you’re, the more specific you get, the more you live in the future with that idea, in that moment of that daydream, then you come back into your regular day life where you are in this time, but you have that in the future, and you’ve manifested it, and you’ve made it, and as long as you are taking actions that would be like, yes, that’s gonna happen, even when things are saying no, it’s not.

Brad Crowell 24:29
Well, I think also, to giving yourself permission to know that that is a possibility.

Lesley Logan 24:34
It’s not a waste of time.

Brad Crowell 24:36
Well, it’s not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it’s the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have that everything’s gonna crash around us. It’s all coming to an end. The other shoe is gonna fall. We have the self talk that is like, give it three months and everything’s gonna explode, but we can have a counter argument to that, and that’s this is the Daydream. I think it’s valuable. I think it’s super helpful, and it helps you operate from a better place. Instead of operating from fear, you’re operating from a place of expectation, hope, joy, excitement. So what about you?

Lesley Logan 25:15
So we got more into manifesting, and Christina highlighted the importance of aligning your energy to match your goals.

Brad Crowell 25:21
Okay.

Lesley Logan 25:22
And she referenced David R. Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness.

Brad Crowell 25:25
I thought this was really curious. I’m not familiar with David R. Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness.

Lesley Logan 25:29
No, I feel like I need to put it on my TBR. I also know what a TBR is. So I’m super, I’m super on it.

Brad Crowell 25:36
Way to be so hip.

Lesley Logan 25:37
I’m on the book talks.

Brad Crowell 25:38
What’s a TBR, oh, to be read.

Lesley Logan 25:41
To be read. I’m not on TikTok though. I’m just on the Instagram of book talks. So I wonder, if they call that the Insta book, what are they? Anyways, we were talking about the energy of the things you’re manifesting, and so she asked you for your be it action items, she said, when you think about what you’re manifesting, what would you feel when you’re manifesting that thing? So she explained if you’ll probably feel love or you’ll feel peace, and she said that you want to make sure that you are in that vibration of the manifesting that you’re wanting, because if you’re in a lower vibration, like guilt or shame, it’s going to indicate misalignment. And so you can actually make sure you’re manifesting things you really do want based on if you feel that love or peace or that high vibration, if you feel low vibration feelings, then you might be manifesting something that it’s not right for you based on what you think people think you should have, or what a friend or partner is putting on you. It’s really quite cool, just to pay attention to the feelings that you’re having in the manifestation of the thing that you want. It should be in a high vibration. Should feel really good to think about it.

Brad Crowell 26:40
It’s interesting. I was just looking at this map, and it helps you basically associate emotions with a level and an energetic number, like an energetic log. They have it. And so wherever your emotional state is, it connects with a specific number, and then that allows you to start connecting the way you’re feeling like, oh, I’m feeling like a 20, or I’m feeling like a 700 or whatever.

Lesley Logan 27:05
So a 20, just so you guys know, that’s shame, and the predominant emotional state is humiliation. The view of life is miserable. The God view is despising, and the process is elimination. I don’t know those last two really well, but I think we can all understand, shame feels really low, and if you’re feeling guilt or shame, guilt is only above shame by a little bit. If you’re feeling that in your manifestations or around manifesting, there’s something misaligned. She also suggested use tools like tapping. We’ve had tapping come up a few times on this podcast.

Brad Crowell 27:35
Many times, EFT, Emotional Freedom Tapping, is that right? Emotional Freedom Technique, Emotional Freedom Technique.

Lesley Logan 27:42
And like you can tap along your collarbones.

Brad Crowell 27:45
Your forehead.

Lesley Logan 27:46
Yes, yes, it’s really it’s, oh, look here we got Emotional Freedom Techniques. You could tap the top of your head, the side of your eye, the inner edge of your eyebrow, underneath your eye, underneath your nose, under lip, above the chin, sides of the center of the collarbone, under the arm, side of the hand, beneath your pinky, so all these different places you can tap on yourself. And I think, I think it’s a great, even if you have no idea what we said about vibrations, you can tap.

Brad Crowell 28:12
So, like, yeah, what EFT can do is create a sense of calm, and basically when you’re daydreaming and forecasting and allowing yourself to believe what could be for you, and you’re associating that with this sense of calm that you’re gaining by tapping you’re effectively reprogramming yourself, you know.

Lesley Logan 28:31
Yeah. How cool. How powerful is that?

Brad Crowell 28:33
It’s pretty powerful.

Lesley Logan 28:34
I loved it. So Christina Deering is really cool. And what she’s been doing out there, she’s really special. We talked about money mindset. She’s really amazing as a coach and a shaman for people who are in the intuitive space, as either a life coach or yoga instructor or things like that. And so if you are struggling to shout out from the rooftops that you’re amazing, you should talk with her. She’s pretty great. I’m Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 28:57
And I’m Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 28:58
Thank you so much for being here today. We are so grateful to have you as a listener. Holy moly, this podcast has grown so much so quickly. It’s compounding because of you.

Brad Crowell 29:07
I mean, we’re almost at 500 episodes.

Lesley Logan 29:09
I know, it’s really not and we’re in the top 1.5% I checked again yesterday just to make sure it wasn’t a fluke, and it’s not. Thank you. It’s not a fluke. It’s pretty amazing. So thank you for being you. Share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. Also on Fridays, we celebrate your wins, and we want you to send your wins in. It’s like you think that your win isn’t good enough for me to shout out to other people, and that makes me sad, because actually, the smaller wins are the best thing. So please send them in. You can DM to us on Instagram on the Be It Pod or to me, and just tell me, this is for the wins, for the FYFs, and we will shout them out because you might need to hear your win on the day it comes out, because you might be having a day that’s not so awesome. So anyways, have an amazing day until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 29:51
Bye for now.
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Lesley Logan
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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Brad Crowell
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Lesley Logan
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Brad Crowell
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