Maybe There’s

a Better Way

Ep. 42 with Lesley & Brad

“You can have a better outlook on the thing that you are doing when you hang out with other [not-your-profession] people.”

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Show Notes

Knowing yourself, being curious, asking genuine questions… these are just some of the topics that Lesley and Brad covered during today’s episode while recapping Dr. Kelly Bender’s interview from the last episode. Also discussed were mantras, physical reminders and more.

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In this episode you will learn about:

  • We’re on week 3 of the OPC #100withme Challenge
  • Cadillac flashcard deck will be available in the spring of 2022
  • Putting physical reminders for yourself in your personal space
  • Money is all around me
  • Going to meet-ups that are not for your profession
  • Be curious, ask questions
  • Maybe there’s a better way
  • Knowing yourself helps you make clear decisions

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Transcript

Lesley Logan
Hey, Be It pod listener, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for being you. Thanks for watching our podcast here on our YouTube channel. I’m just so grateful for you. I have a big favor, and I’m, I mean, like, let me just say, “It’s not easy for me to ask for help,” but I need your help. I’m on a mission, I really want to change as many lives and help people be it till they see it all over the world, and I need your help. We have been so grateful. The amount of downloads our podcast has had in just a short period of time is, it’s amazing. That’s insane. However, we also need more written reviews. So, and specifically on Apple. So even if you are watching here on YouTube, or you listen on Spotify, or you listen on Google Play, Apple podcast is where everyone looks to see which podcasts they should send people on for interviews. And, so we need lots of reviews to be there like a hundred written reviews. So, big huge favor if you could use the link below, go write a review, rate us, give us all the stars you love and let me know. Screenshot it, send it to me on a @be_it_pod. I just want to thank you for the bottom of my heart. We are truly, truly can’t do this podcast without you. And, I’m just so grateful that these words hit your ears. And if you wouldn’t mind writing us that review that would be amazing. And, I will be so forever grateful. Thank you and now here’s the podcast you wanted to listen to.

Lesley Logan
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I’m Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I’ve trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it’s the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It’s a practice, not a perfect. Let’s get started.

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Lesley Logan
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the inspiring convo I had with Dr. Kelly Bender in our last episode. If you haven’t yet listened to that interview, feel free to stop now. Go back to that one. Listen to it, you’re gonna wanna listen to it, there’s some good stuff in there. And then come back and listen to this or do it in the reverse order. However, you like to do things in your life. Maybe you’re out washing the dishes (well, I don’t know why you would be out washing dishes) maybe you’re in washing the dishes, and you just have wet hands. You can’t change the order of episodes. That’s fine. It’s gonna be awesome. No spoiler alerts. I’m really excited Babe though, because we are, we are finishing up week three of the #100withme challenge. And this one is like, it’s so fun because the people who are on their third and fourth time around are like really getting like they’re like, there’s so much space and grace for themselves. And they have so much support for others and the people are on their first time are truly like owning it. They’re like … I mean, even when they get a little they’ve had a little head cold, whatever they’re like, “I’m taking care of myself though. I’m laying in bed.” (Brad: Nice) And like they’re celebrating it. It’s really fun.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, it’s been good. I feel like the more we do this challenge the the people who have been with us the whole time. They definitely get it and it’s been great for them to kind of share the methodology, the thought process with the new people as they’re coming in and to be encouraging and stuff. (Lesley: Yeah) So, it’s cool to to be building a community (Lesley: Yeah) and to see people you know, getting to know each other.

Lesley Logan
I know. It’s really a lot of fun that we have our hype girls in there this time and they’re they’re having a lot of fun and you’ve been you’ve been doing the check in calls before me. We have people (Brad: Yeah) y’all, you don’t know what this challenge is called #100withme because it’s about giving yourself 100% with me and … (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell
This is the “Me, Myself and I” theme.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, I thought it was time because I just saw so many people getting back into their life after, you know, different lock downs and such and people were falling back into those bad. Oh, I mean, technically there’s no such thing as a bad habit, but the life of going, being really busy doing things for others before they do things for themselves over scheduling themselves. (Brad: Sure) And so we just had to do … I mean “Me, Myself and I” themed one, and it’s go, I mean people are really “me, myself and I-ing.” I love it. I love it.

Brad Crowell
That’s a that’s a …

Lesley Logan
I made it. Is it a verb? Did I make it a verb?

Brad Crowell
You made it a verb. You did. “Me, myself and I-ing” (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah (Lesley: Anyways …) good for them.

Lesley Logan
I know, good for them. (Brad laughs) Somehow, I make it about me, but I’m so proud of that. (Brad: I love it.) But actually we are going into week four this weekend. And this is where it’s like you start to see the people cramming it in because they’re trying to get there checkins but also you see people who are really getting into their flow. And I love that and that’s why we do it for 30 days. Because, you know, the first week is super motivated, super exciting, it’s new. And the second week is where like things life gets in the way and you start to… things happen. But then the third week we troubleshoot, and the four week, fourth week, you’re like to hopefully in your groove, and if not, if you start in the week three, we had a few people start late, that’s okay, because you have all the inspirations apart from the people who’ve gone through it with you. So you kind of you kind of learn it faster.

Brad Crowell
Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah) And we’ve had some people who, you know, signed up, and then we’re not able to really do it. And so they’re just getting started. (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah, so it’s good.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so if you are like this challenge sounds really fun. I want to be all about myself. Then you want to go to #100withme.com and go on the waitlist for the next one. But also, if you become an OPC member, you hear about it first and we will always give our OPC members an option. And I would just say if you are on the email list, there’s a fun little announcement that’s gonna go out about becoming an OPC member next week. (Brad: Watch out now) … Watch that email. Anyways, that is something that is super exciting going on right now as we speak in real time. But before we get into the recap, do we have an audience question?

Brad Crowell
We did, as you definitely heard us talk about here on the pod. We’ve had two decks of flashcards come out for Pilates flashcards, one for the Mat and the other for the Reformer. And somebody asked if we were going to be doing another deck on the chairs. (Lesley: Yeah) And we are …

Lesley Logan
We are that’s not the next one though. (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell
But that’s not the next one. So, we’re so grateful for your question. Stay tuned. Next will be the Cadillac …

Lesley Logan
It’s the Cadillac and I’m really excited about it. It should be out in spring time, spring time.

Brad Crowell
Yeah, in the spring and then the chairs should be out in the fall of next year.

Lesley Logan
That is the plan and now that my team is already doing all the legwork for it. I can’t back out (Brad laughs) so you will see that there is, Brad isn’t there a fancy little shindig where they can like just get all deck alerts when it comes to upcoming decks. I pretty sure there is a waitlist for this. He will put it in the show notes. He’s he’s may feel like it doesn’t exist but it does.

Brad Crowell
I will, I will put it in the show notes now there was a waitlist at one point for the Mat and then we rolled it into the Reformer. So …

Lesley Logan
And then we rolled it into it all deck waitlist.

Brad Crowell
We did yeah so we have we I will put it in the show notes. If you’re interested in getting updates about the flashcards.

Lesley Logan
My brain is like, “Meridith did it.” (Brad: Yeah. She did it.) I’m hoping he read that brain (Brad laughs) message. I just sent it right across the table. Anyways, thanks for that question. I I’m so glad you’re so enthusiastic about these deck cards. They’re super, super fun for us. And I’m going to be really honest, these next decks are a little bit more tricky to put together because there is no order. And (Brad: Yeah) there’s a lot of variations for things. And so, I’m really trying to put together the most comprehensive version of the deck that we can so that everyone including teachers or non teachers can use it for their tower and their Cadillac, and then more. So stay tuned. Thank you … You can send any questions you have for us. It could be about life, business, Pilates, you know, a book you want to read, that neighbor next door who’s driving you nuts, you can whatever and you can send it in at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. We’ll answer in the next episode.

Brad Crowell
Awesome. Well let’s talk about Dr. Kelly Bender from last well from the last episode on Monday. I know you’re so excited to talk (Lesley: I love her) about her because I know that she’s one of your besties. (Lesley: She is) Dr. Bender is a California licensed Naturopathic Medical Doctor. Trained in natural medicine, ketamine, regenerative medicine, bio identical hormone replacement therapy and peptide therapy. And I had no idea about most of that. I just was like, “Oh, our friend’s a naturopathic doctor” …

Lesley Logan
And she’s come to Cambodia with us. He has spent a week with her and a different country. No idea …

Brad Crowell
Yeah, but I didn’t know about all these medical situations. So she’s like, super focused on staying on the cutting edge of things. She’s very plugged in. She helps you learn about your own body and how you can take care of yourself with a specifically individualized treatment plan. She’s been both Lesley and my doctor for a while now plus a our friend for longer and I’m shocked to say like I said I didn’t know most of her story. So it was super fun to listen to the two of you talking about that and I can absolutely envision her, knowing her, I can envision her you know, like talking herself into going to a meetup and then get put herself in the room and like intentionally, you know, like, she’s great at talking to people. So, you know, once she got in the groove, I’m sure it was easy.

Lesley Logan
She’s also 100% great at listening to people because I spend time with her and I hang out with her and like we’ve been on the retreat with her. And it amazes me like she intently listens with a smile on her face. And her eyes are like locked in. And she’s like listening. And it’s really fun to be around. I’ve done some networking events with her, and, and I … she’s whatev… everything that she talked about doing inside the podcast she totally 100% owns and does like that was all real …

Brad Crowell
Well, there was a ton of takeaways and also a handful of BE IT action items at the end.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, so I real… there’s so many things I loved. I was listening to it again this morning. And I was like, “Oh, I love that, Oh, I love that. What am I going to choose?” So actually, I really loved about the partnership about putting things in your physical environment that make you feel that happiness in a desired state. And I think this is really true. I’m not I’m not quite certain if anyone’s talked about having like a token or a talisman, that might be an episode coming out, that I talked to someone about, but it’s like having something in your room that when you see it, it kind of snaps you into that experience and that feeling you want to have. And so she does have what she talked about she has two $100 bills on a seashell with an amethyst stone where she sits down so that she knows, “Money is all around me. Money’s every… is all around me.” (Brad: Yeah.) And I was like, “I think, I can do that. I need to put money just everywhere.” (Lesley laughs) Would have been really helpful this weekend, when I left for different state without any credit cards whatsoever, I would have been really helpful. (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell
I know, I know and I was like, “Here Babe, here’s all the cash I have,” I’m sure it was like $17 or something … (Brad laughs)

Lesley Logan
Thank you, you gave me that $17 because I was able to buy a cup of coffee. But I really did trust us like, “Money is all around, it’s gonna be here.” Anyways, I think that that’s a really cool thing that people could do, it wasn’t a BE IT action item. But like, if there is something that makes you smile, or if there is a scent that makes you feel a certain way, or like pick something, put it where you sit, put it where you are, so that you have this reminder of the desired state you want to be in.

Brad Crowell
Especially, I think aroma therapy is so good at this, you know, it is like, you know, it can transport you to a different place with that. I think music can do this too. But to actually see something like a physical item that is there that can also be a really great trigger.

Lesley Logan
Yeah, I love that. What is something you loved that she said?

Brad Crowell
You know, I I’m always into getting out meeting people, you know, my, my, one of my strengths is “WOO,” right, “Winning Others Over.” So, I love to be in a room and meeting everybody. And she said something that I thought was really, really strategic in building a network. You know, when she first moved to Los Angeles, she said she was a doctor, she moved there and she didn’t really know that many people. And she wanted to start meeting people. So she started networking. And so she would going she would go to these meetups, but her her friends were going her medical doctor friends who are going to meetups, we’re going to medical meetups, and she said, “I intentionally chose business meetups, because I (a) I knew that doctors weren’t ever going to become my patients down the road. And (b) you know, I knew that if I was gonna run a business, I was going to need help doing it. And I didn’t know anybody to help me with it at all. So, I thought well, I might as well go meet people who do business stuff.” And so she was in the room intentionally trying to meet people who were not like her. And I thought that was just really (Lesley: Oh, yeah) smart. It was like, Oh, yeah, that’s, that’s kind of obvious when you say it like that. But that’s a great thing to be self aware enough to do that.

Lesley Logan
It’s something that I you know, this is not a Pilates business podcast. But so that Pilates friends out there, the teachers, the teachers listening, this is something I see constantly, they spend a lot of time in Pilates teachers’ forums, and then their (Brad: Sure) selling to other Pilates teachers. (Brad: Right) But those teachers are not going to be your clients. (Brad: Right) So, it’s really okay to spend time in other groups (Brad: Yeah) because even if those people don’t become your clients, they could be the people who are the keys to the clients, you’re going to have … (Brad: Yeah, they’ll connect the dots for you) I just say that because it’s so true. Like we really need to put ourselves in rooms with people who don’t do what we do, because it actually allows us to grow the thing that we’re going to do.

Brad Crowell
100% and and, you know, now she said, from those meetups, which, what she says 2010 or so like (Lesley: Yeah) 10 years ago. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? She’s not only working with some of the people that she met, but she has some of those people have become clients too. So you know, it was a definitely forward thinking long term concept. But, you know, set herself up. So, bravo for her. I thought that was amazing. And, we can all be doing that too, even if it’s not, even if we don’t have any underlying, you know, specific reasons do it, you know, going to hang out with other musicians is great. But going and hanging out with maybe comedians is could also … (Lesley: Right, because you could …) a different perspective.

Lesley Logan
Well, ’cause some comedians are adding music. So they’d be like, (Brad: Sure) “Oh, man you write a song for this,” like, it’s just really cool to put yourself in other people’s arenas and and you just learn a lot, you there’s just a lot you and I also find that you can have a better outlook on the thing that it is that you’re doing when you hang out other people because it’s, it’s easy when you’re hanging out people who already do what you do, to go into, “This is going wrong and this is going wrong” because they understand they don’t, you don’t have to explain anything. But when you are in a different arena, and you are talking to someone who doesn’t even know what it is that you do, of course, you want to talk about it in this like, “Awesome,” like because you want to go, “My job sucks.” (Lesley laughs) You like want to say like, “Oh, I really love about this, and I get to do this. And this is really exciting.” And so it does help you meet more people. And so whether you go into other rooms, because you’re looking for friends, or you’re looking for networking, it is an awesome idea. I think it’s really great. So go do it. (Brad: Yeah) Let us know how it goes.

Brad Crowell
Well, let’s talk about the BE IT action items. So what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Kelly Bender? And I’ll go first she, she said the she was talking about chatting with those other people. And she said, “Be curious,” you know, that’s the best way to connect with others is to be curious about them. And ask them questions, you know, genuinely ask them questions and learn about them and let them share with with you. And, I think that that’s something that’s applicable across the board. You know, … when we have, I’m really guilty of this, I think I spend some time thinking about the thing, whatever the thing is, and I make a decision and I say, “This is the most efficient, this is the best way, this is the right way, this is the whatever you however you want to call it. This is how it should be done. Or this is how it is or this is you know, whatever.” And then we we’re like, “Great. I’ve … made that decision moving on,” then you don’t think about it again. Right? And there’s, you know, that maybe maybe you got it right. But maybe there’s another way, maybe there’s a better way who knows, right?

Lesley Logan
Here what it’s so freakin’ funny. I just spent the weekend in Dallas, my friend Erika Quest, she was on the … on the show earlier in the season. And she, whenever she talks about Brad, she’s like, “Brad is literally the definition of curiosity.” (Brad laughs) She’s like, “Brad walked in to our backyard. And he is just like, curious about this plant and he’s curious about this plant. And he researches this.” And like, if you ask, like, “I wonder, how I can do this?” He’s like, “You know, how we could do that?” And like you have you actually (Brad laughs) have a lot of curiosity. And she’s like, “When is he going to tattoo?” Like curiosity on him because like that he is just like such that person. But I do think when it comes to like your own, like the way you do things in your house, or the way things you do in your business, it’s easy to get set in your ways. (Brad: Yeah) But putting you you put yourself in situations that are unfamiliar, you are very curious. So, I think …

Brad Crowell
That’s true. Yeah, I mean, especially when you’re unfamiliar, you know, it kind of forces you to be curious to to survive. (Lesley: Yeah) So that’s, that’s if you’re if you’re trying to figure out how you can be more curious, go to a meetup or people you don’t know. (Brad laughs)

Lesley Logan
Yeah. But I really love… she was just like (Brad: Yeah), “Ask questions.” And we talked about this in the podcast already. But just a reminder, in case you’re only listen to recaps, if you go, “I’m an introvert, I’m shy,” whatever. Being curious, you can be introverted and shy. (Brad: Yeah) You just have to go, “Oh, tell me more about that. Oh, what’s that like? Oh, are you having fun with that? Oh, how long you’ve been doing that for?” Like, you can just like …

Brad Crowell
One of the things that I asked which is really kind of started off in a snarky way. And now has become something that I just asked because it’s turned into a great question is, “Is that a good thing?” (Lesley: Oh) Right? Because people make a statement and, and then I can’t decide …. Like at first I was like, you know, kind of razzing him because it clearly didn’t sound like it was a good thing. But now it’s like, you know, because because it it kind of is a question that puts people that makes them think through, “Is it a good thing?” You know, and then they actually have to pause think about it and then respond to that. So that’s another easy way to ask …

Lesley Logan
We’re gonna have to put like Brad’s conversation starter questions into (Brad laughs) a lead magnet. (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell
Is that a good thing?

Lesley Logan
Yeah, it is. I think everyone for holiday parties is gonna be like, “Ah, how do I get this conversation going?” (Lesley laughs)

Brad Crowell
That’s pretty funny. I love that. Well, what about you, what what’s your BE IT takeaway?

Lesley Logan
I love to know yourself one. I think that this is a an obvious one and also like, “How and the heck do you do this?” And, I also think that you’re if you’re curious, you’re going to constantly learning about yourself, you’re gonna learn some things about yourself and you change a lot and different environments you kind of change where you maybe feel more comfortable where you don’t. And so just knowing yourself and knowing like, “How many hours can I teach in front of people?” This is my question I asked myself going into this weekend before I’m like, “I need to be by myself” and I really was set up for success for this weekend. It was so fun, I only had a couple hours in a row and then I got a break and I was like, “Yep, that’s where I’m at right now” and like just knowing that so then I got an email like, “Can you come teach us thing?” It’s like four hours and a half and I was like, “Hmm, here’s what I can do? I can totally do. Is there a way we can just split that up into two blocks?” Because I know myself and so I’m not saying yes to things that are going to possibly make stress me out or (Brad: Yeah) make me upset that I like change the boundary about myself. So the more you know about yourself the easier to say yes to things especially for those of you who are wanting to start some sort of side hustle like if you know you are not a night person when it comes to ideas. Really try to do yourself a favor to find “a morning” not every morning “a morning” where you can focus on that side hustle. If you know that like you get stressed out when the kids are around that is not the time to sit down and like swallow the frog and like work on the hard thing like that’s the time to clean your inbox out. Make a fun game and so just really knowing what makes what lights your fire, what brings you joy, brings you energy. Kind of go back to the Rob Mack … episode I think he’s episode three and (Brad: I want to say two. Was it two?) No, no cuz two is a recap. Odds are guest interviews.

Brad Crowell
Oh, right. Yes. (Lesley: Yes) The actual episode number three. (Lesley: Yeah) Nailed it. Nailed it.

Lesley Logan
I’m so good. Anyways, he has happiness values and happiness islands and so he also did that as like confidence values, as a confidence islands on a talk you for Agency members. And so I think, one you’re going to be constantly learning who you are. But if you are curious you will (Brad: Right) and you just keep making tweaks and changes like the beautiful thing going back to Erika Quest actually since we just spent the weekend together. She quotes Humble the Poet all the time. “We are not concrete, we are a construct and so the more you learn about yourself the changes that you’ll make and then you’ll experience that new change you made” and then you’ll go, “Oh, oh I actually really liked that but I like it with water. Thank you.” (Brad laughs) Like you’re just gonna keep doing it. So, I say, “Know yourself that is a best way to be it till you see it.”

Brad Crowell
That’s a that is amazing. And it’s funny that’s actually helped us with our business and our marriage because you’re you are a morning ideas person and I am an a night ideas person. And so, you know, I know that I’m like completely ineffective in a brainstorming conversation first thing when I wake up, and you know, conversely, you are ineffective in at night when you’re like, “I’m done. I’m ready to go to bed.” (Lesley: Yeah. So we made it 10am) And yeah, so we we intentionally meet during the afternoon when both of us are firing at all cylinders because we know ourselves now.

Lesley Logan
Right. And we don’t try to change the other person. And I think that that’s really key in any partnership, marriage or business. It’s just if you can find a compromise, the middle of the day is really nice. And that might mean we can’t meet with other people. But that’s okay. (Brad: Yeah) That’s what other times for. Yeah.

Brad Crowell
I love it.

Lesley Logan
I love this. I love the episode so much. Thank you, Dr. Kelly Bender for being our guests. And y’all, I want to know, Brad and I want to know how are you going to use these BE IT action in your life? Screenshot this. Tag us on Instagram. Tell us how you’re going to use them and also tag Dr. Kelly Bender so that she can hear about it, too. It’s going to bring her so much joy. (Brad: Totally) I just want to say this because it’s so important that you know, every time you share this podcast, it is like gold. It is such amazing like you couldn’t add more value if you wanted to. Like the best thing you can do for this podcast on any podcast you like is share it like even if you start in a text message, you talk about it. It’s how the podcast grows. (Brad: Yeah) And we’re on a mission to get hundred written reviews. 100 written reviews. So keep posting those because not only does it brighten my day, but it actually helps us get other guests and get other listeners to this podcast. We could bring more amazing episodes into your ears wherever you are in this world. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell
Bye for now.

Lesley Logan
That’s all I’ve got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over on IG at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us help others to BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!

Lesley Logan
‘Be It Till You See It’ is a production of ‘As The Crows Fly Media’.

Brad Crowell
It’s written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan
Kevin and Bel at Disenyo handle all of our audio editing and some social media content.

Brad Crowell
Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan
Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can’t see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week so you can.

Brad Crowell
And to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.

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